Season 5, Episode 13
David Wilcock: Hi, I'm David Wilcock, and you're watching “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm here with my co-host, Corey Goode, as we go down the rabbit hole.
Clifford Stone never rose above the rank of sergeant while he served in the military. That's an important point. But he was noticed by higher-ups in the military from the time he was a young boy, because of his empathic abilities, or, as he puts it, his ability to telepathically “interface” with the extraterrestrials.
When the military encountered extraterrestrial life forms, they entrusted Clifford to help with communication and facilitation with these entities. It turns out that there are many life forms and extraterrestrial species, just as Corey has been describing on our show.
Life in this universe is much more robust than we have been led to believe. Stone individually corroborates this notion.
So, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I give you Clifford Stone.
RECRUITING MR. STONE
Clifford Stone: When I graduated in . . . it was first part of June, 1968, I got a notice from the draft board. And the draft board was telling me, “Greetings and salutations from your friends and neighbors. We need you to report for reconsideration at the Ashland, Kentucky, AFEES, Armed Forces Entrance Examination Station.”
And my mom was upset, says, “No”, you know. “I know you're going to get in the military, and you're going to wind up going to Vietnam.”
I said, “Mom, you don't have to worry about that. I'm medically disqualified. And it's still going to be the same.”
So I went there, and I passed all my written tests, you know, with flying colors, but I still had the medical problem.
There was a captain there that was the medical doctor, and he'd already told me. He says, “Well, you know you're going home.” He says, “I know that you'd like to go ahead and serve your country, but there's nothing we can do. You have medical issues, and you're not qualified for military service.”
We had this colonel who was visiting from the Washington DC, area – I'm going to put it that way – who went ahead and told the captain, “Look, go ahead -” and it was on Friday, and it was Fourth of July weekend - “take your family, go on home, and enjoy the Fourth of July weekend. I'll go ahead and finish up the ones here.”
Well, I was saved till last. Then he called me in, and he said, “You know, you have medical problems.”
I says, “Yes, sir.”
And he says, “Do you really want to go in?”
And I says, “Well, yes, sir. There's a lot of people that don't believe in this war. There's a lot of people that don't want to go. And I want to serve my country. And if I get to go, that's one less person that's going to have to go in my place.”
I said, “Right now, I feel every time somebody that doesn't want to go ends up going, that's a person going in my place. And if I hear that they get killed, then they got killed in my stead.”
And he says, “Well, what if I fix it to where you get to go? You can go ahead and fight it at any time. All you have to do is go and tell them that you have this medical issue.”
And I said, “You get me in, I won't fight it.”
He says, “Well, remember, you got 179 days, once you're in. After you hit that 180 days, you're locked in. They're recognize the medical problems, but you're still in the service.”
I went ahead. I got in. I hit up on staying in. I passed the 180 days, then I went to Fort Jackson, South Carolina.
When I got to Fort Jackson, South Carolina, that was for my AIT. That's Advanced Individual Training, and I was going to be a clerk typist. Not the dream of my life, because I wanted to be a helicopter pilot, but that wasn't about to come to pass because of the medical situation.
But I went there, and I was one day in class, part of the second day in class. The next day, even before I got to class, they picked me out to go over and clean up the headquarters building and specifically the section that housed the intelligence section.
When I went in there, there was this guy there who was visiting, once again, allegedly from the Washington, DC, area. And he drummed up this conversation with me.
Well, my mom didn't raise no fools. I wasn't about to tell somebody I was interested in UFOs. And he went ahead and told me, he says, “Well, how do you feel about UFOs?”
And I said, “I don't know. I don't give them much thought.”
He says, “Oh, come now. Everyone thinks about UFOs.” He says, “Do you believe in them, or do you not believe in them?”
And I remember saying, “I really don't know. I haven't given it much thought.”
He says, “I think you have.” He says, “I personally believe in them.” He says, “Here, I want to show you something.”
And I looked at some of the documents and some of the records he has there. When I'm looking at it, I'm thinking, “This is not for me to see.” Because I did not believe I had a security clearance.
I knew what Top Secret meant. And I knew, by looking at those records, I was violating the federal law of the United States – the espionage laws.
I did not know what the other words meant following Top Secret. Now I know that it is identifying it as documents under the Sensitive Compartmented Information Program or the Special Access programs.
I did not know that prior.
Now, I told him, “You know, I don't think I should be look at these. I don't have a security clearance.”
He told me, “Son, I am not showing you anything that I have not been told to show you.”
I know now that from a very early age, somehow, some way, they knew I was having this ongoing interaction with - and I prefer to call them - “our visitors”. And it was the one species, but I know other species were interacting in and around with this one species.
But only one of the entities was to follow me throughout life. But even at that, there was always that other interaction with the other entities.
The reason that I feel that the military permitted me to get in – it wasn't that they permitted me to get in. They have to choose people within the civilian sector that may not otherwise want to get into the military, that had this ongoing interrelation with “our visitors”.
What they used me for when they used me with UFOs, it was called “interfacing”. And that's where you actually carry on communication with “our visitors”, whether they're injured or whether they're okay and we're holding them until their kind come and pick them up.
But the whole situation is they won't talk to just anyone. They'll talk to these other people that have been specially selected.
And like I said earlier, you don't learn this. It's not something they can teach you. So they have to find people within the civilian sector, and then they have to entice these people to where they become willing to come into the military.
And a lot of times they may do this by appealing to your patriotic sense of duty or, in several cases, it's even monetary gain. And when it's monetary gain, every time I've seen that type of situation happen, it was because of family issues or otherwise people didn't want to be involved.
And these people are very difficult to find.
The reason I know that – when I got out of the military, there were only seven in the military, including me.
You know, when I got into the military, and after I went through AIT and everything, I got to my first duty station. And when I got to my first duty station, I was very concerned, because above all things – even though my record said I could type 72 words a minute – I would hunt and peck, and I'd be lucky if I could type four or five words a minute.
So when I got to my first duty station, which was the 36 Civil Affairs Company of the 96 Civil Affairs Group at Fort Lee, Virginia, I went in and gave my records to my First Sergeant. And I went ahead and I told him. I said, “You know, First Sergeant, I think you should know right not, I can't type.”
He looked at my records and he says, “But you can read?”
And I said, “Oh, yes, sir, “ or “Yes, First Sergeant, I can read. Not a problem there.”
And he took my records back in to the company commander. The company commander then came back out and said, “Well, tell me, son. Are you color blind by any chance?”
And I said, “No, sir.”
And he says, “Okay, just checking.” And he says, “What color of the uniform do you have on?” which I found to be a very strange question.
And I said, “Well, sir, it's the AG44 Army dress green uniform.”
“So you're telling me it's green?”
I said, “Yes, sir. It's green.”
He said, “That's all I want to know. I just wanted to make sure you wasn't color blind.” Nothing else was said.
Within a couple days, First Sergeant came back in and says, “Well, since you can't type, what we're going to do, we're going to send you to Ft. McClellan, Alabama, to attend the non-commissioned officers' nuclear biological chemical school.
Therefore, you'll be the NBC, a non-commissioned officer for our unit. And it's a three-week course.
And I said, “Okay, I don't mind doing that.”
And he says, “But, of course, along with that, you're going to be handling the communication equipment.”
And I thought, “Okay, fine. It's better than typing, because I can't type.”
So they went ahead, and they sent me to Fort McClellan. When I got there, we got to see some things, which I never actually understood how it would tie in to NBC.
They showed this film, “This right here is from greater than 500 miles out in space, taken by a satellite.”
Then they went ahead, “This is the United States taken greater than 500 miles out in space by a satellite.”
Then, “This is New York City taken by a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
“This is Central Park, taken by a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
“This is a man on a park bench looking at a newspaper taken from a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
“This is the headlines of that newspaper taken from a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
The date was sometime in 1968. And, of course, this was, I think, February of '69.
But we wasn't supposed to have this type of technology. I know now, from my research and hitting up on my documentation with the NRO, that we had satellites capable of doing this all the way back to the mid-60s and probably earlier before that.
But did not know it at that time. I was an innocent kid having no idea what I was being groomed for.
Anyhow, we finished school, and I met this guy. I knew him as Jack. He was a Spec. 5. And he worked for the US Army Security Agency.
And, of course, he was assigned to the National Security Agency.
And he said . . . You know, when I got ready to come back home, I found out my ticket had been stolen. And I'm wondering how am I going to get back home? How am I going to get back to my unit? And because, you know, Fort McClellan, Alabama, versus getting back to Fort Lee, Virginia.
And he says, “Well, you know, I'm there at Fort Belvoir. It's on the way. I'll go ahead, and you drive along with me. I got my own car here.”
So we drove. And as we drove on home, we talked about various things – family, military, things of this sort. Then he brought up about he had an incident where he saw a UFO. And he started to prod me.
“Have you ever seen a UFO?” And I said, “Oh, I've seen things I couldn't identify.” But, you know, I tried to keep it low key.
And he says, “Come on, you can tell me. We're friends.” So I started telling him a little bit more.
Well, he dropped me off at my unit. And a couple of weeks later, he called and said, “Hey, listen. You've never been into Washington, DC, have you? You've never visited the Pentagon and some of the other nice to see places around here that tourists like to come visit.”
I went, “No.”
He says, “Well, why don't I send a car to pick you up?”
Now remember, he's a Spec 5. That's an E-5 in the military. It's the same as a Sergeant E-5. The difference is, is that you're a specialist in your field with no command authority. Sergeant E-5 – they have command authority.
So they went ahead, and he's going to go ahead and send a staff car. Highly unusual, but I didn't think anything about it. Hey, NSA – what do I know?
But a car pulls up, complete with driver, and at my unit, and they're taking me away for the weekend, supposedly. And we went to Fort Belvoir, Virginia. I know that for a fact.
And we went to, I'm saying, it's the NSA headquarters is where we went. And we went to his office.
When we got there, well, Jack wasn't there. He had to go. He had an assignment he had to work on, but he'd be coming in later on. So one of the other guys who was there, who was supposed to be one of Jack's friends, says, “Hey, no problem. Why don't I take you to the Pentagon, because I understand you've never visited the Pentagon? Why don't I take you over there and let you see what goes on over at the Pentagon, get to visit there?”
And he went ahead and he gave me a badge. He says, “Keep this badge on you at all times.”
And they had a picture there. Then it had different color-coded sections on it that said where I was authorized to go and where I wasn't authorized to go.
And right at the bottom there was something on it that he stated, “That's very important because that opens up all the doors to you. But you have to stay right with me.”
We go into the Pentagon. And when we go into the Pentagon, we go in, and he takes me around and shows me some of the offices. He shows me the one place where – “This, right here, is where they had the news conference in 1952 – July 29, 1952, dealing with the UFOs that was seen over Washington, DC.”
And he says, “You're aware, of course, that 68 UFOs were picked up on the night of August 18, 1952?”
And I said, “Oh, yeah. I'm very aware of that.”
Then he says, “Well, you know, the most unique case, even though all these get all the publicity, was the night of July 19 and 20. That was the most unique one. Most people don't know anything about it. And he carried on the conversation, bits and pieces about it.
Then we get to an elevator. And he says, “Well, I'm going to show you the basement of this place.” He says, “People haven't seen this, and, of course, we have to harden”, which means that you prepare a building for a nuclear strike, “so we have to harden the Pentagon to make sure that people survive in the event of a nuclear attack.”
So he took me on down. And we got down . . . I don't know how many floors down.
But we got out and there was this little silver car. I mean, you couldn't tell which was the front, and which was the back other than where the seats were, and the seats were facing one direction.
And we got into that, looked like a little bullet. We got into it, and he says, “This is called a monorail.” He says, “It's not on a track.” And he showed me where you have a little tube-like, and it drove on that. And it was electromatically driven.
So he went ahead, and we got in there. And I don't know how long we drove underneath there, but he was trying to tell me that the Pentagon's a mighty big place. So don't be concerned that we're driving for . . . in that little con . . . and there's no driver. You know where you're going and . . . I'm sure he had some way to control it, but I don't remember all of that about it.
I was just taken aback and fascinated, because this was the first time I'd seen anything like that.
But we got to this one place and there was this door on the side. We get out and we go into that door and there's this long corridor – no doors, just a long corridor. And this is underneath the, allegedly, underneath the Pentagon.
And I know we drove for at least 20 minutes.
But we went down that corridor, and he was telling me, “You know, a lot of things aren't the way they seem.”
He says, “This looks just like it's a long corridor. You walk down to the end, there's nothing there. You have to turn around and come back. You can see the door at the other end.”
And I said, “Yeah. What's your point?”
“Well, a lot of things aren't as they seem to be.”
He tapped on the wall, and he says, “Solid wall, right?”
And I said, “Yeah.” And I started to say, “What's your point?” Before I could say anything, he says, “It isn't necessarily solid.” And he pushed me. And I go through the wall.
You know, there's nothing there, but yet, when I was there, it looked like it was just a solid wall.
And I go, “What the heck are you doing?” But before I could get up and say, “What the heck are you doing?” I notice I'm in a room. I turn around. When I turn around, there is this, what we call a field desk, which is nothing more than a little table.
And setting at the field desk, is what you would call your typical Grey.
And, once again – people get upset with it – I'm going to have to say he was about 4 ½, maybe even 5-foot tall. But he's sitting there, and he's got his hands up like this [on desk], and he's looking directly at me.
On either side of him . . . and I'm not going to say black suit, it's a dark suit, and they had dark glasses on. And they were standing there like this. [Standing up straight.] Not one word was said.
And I was the one that when I got up and turned around to see, “What the heck are you doing?” That's what I said. I remember to this day. “What the heck you do . . . ?”
And I stopped right there because I saw this, and immediately it's like a buzz saw going off in my head. I went down on my knees, and I went face down first. I remember that. That's the last thing I remember.
I wake up. I'm back in Jack's office. I'm being told nothing happened. I must have dreamed it. No one took me any place. We had been there all along, and I seemed to be tired. And I must have just dozed off.
Jack never showed up. I was put back into the staff car, and I was drove back to my unit, being told that whatever mission Jack was on, it was going to be time consuming and it probably would be another week before you get to come back. Last contact with Jack.
The reason I think that that incident happened, it was part of the conditioning to get me in the frame of mind that I would understand there are many things that people aren't supposed to believe in, that is reality. And that I was going to have to play a role in it, whether I wanted to or not.
So I think it was part of the conditioning to get me conditioned to where I would accept it and, eventually, assure myself, within my own self, that I was doing this for the greater good of the country.
And I'll tell you, right now. All the time that I was involved in this stuff, I really felt that I was doing something that was for the greater good of the country until toward the end. And then I didn't feel that way.
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David Wilcock: This is pretty intense stuff here. This is an origin story. And I don't know about you, Corey, but when I watch that clip, . . . anybody (who) is going to try to tell me that this guy is making this up . . .
Corey Goode: No.
David: I mean, some on.
Corey: There was nothing but genuineness coming . . .
David: And I don't know if you know this, Corey, but Sergeant Stone's son died as a result of him coming forward.
Corey: Yeah, I heard.
David: This guy has not profited off of his story. He came out in 2001 at the Disclosure Project. He's hardly done any events since then. He is not trying to go out there and make a name for himself.
He's obviously not getting any ego gratification off of telling these stories. And they haven't changed in the 20-some years that he's been out there publicly.
Corey: He's not the ego-centric type.
David: No, definitely not. You can clearly see, in the beginning of this interview, 1968 – the height of the Vietnam War. It really was remarkable to me his sense of personal honor and duty to his country that he wanted to go in the place of people who didn't want to go, that he felt personally responsible for those people's lives.
David: Now do you think that that quality is part of what made him empathic enough to do this intuitive communication?
Corey: That's one of those chicken or the egg kind of questions. You know, nature or nurture. These personality types are heavily searched for. They are extremely valuable. And he didn't say it this way, but he is what they would call an intuitive empath.
And this ability that intuitive empaths have allows the military types to interface or communicate with beings that don't use words, that have left language behind, you know, eons ago.
And, you know, they're not going to be able to sit there and doodle questions back and forth on a notepad.
David: Yeah. I thought that was one of the really fascinating aspects of corroboration with your testimony that we're getting out of Sergeant Clifford Stone here. The simple fact that it is such a rarity that the extraterrestrials will find anyone who they actually want to speak to.
David: Now, he also mentioned in there that he had a medical issue that would prevent him from going into the military. And I just want to clarify that he didn't ever say what it was. It was a personal private matter.
But it sounds like the fix was in on him. I mean, would you agree with that that this is something he'd been targeted for?
Corey: Yes. The military-industrial complex, whatever you want to call them, they are tracking just about all of these visitor craft that come. And, more than likely, when he was young, and one of these craft had come and visited him, some time after it left, he was probably re-abducted by the military to be questioned about the relationship and what all happened with his visit.
And at that point, you're on their radar. Even if they don't come and re-abduct you, they know the people that are being visited.
David: All right. So let's now talk about how he gets activated, and they throw him into this very bizarre job, but it's in Washington, DC. And on the second day, he has this official, who's supposedly only a Spec 5, that comes in and starts trying to make small talk with him about UFOs.
This very clearly looks like it was a setup. Do you think that the whole job of him going there was just a setup?
David: That they sent him there to have that guy approach him?
Corey: Yes. That's exactly what happened. They . . . And in the military, people just don't nonchalantly kick back and say, “What do you think about UFOs?”
Corey: It's just like how pilots are. And like American Airlines, you're not going to see one of them walking around with their peers talking about UFOs. It's taboo.
David: Is it common for potential insiders to be approached in a manner like this with somebody who has documents in hand that are highly classified and then just tell you not to freak out, that you're authorized to see these documents if they want somebody that badly?
Corey: Yes. And all it takes is a person higher up clearing a person to see documents that are from Special Access Programs (SAP).
David: Right. So are you familiar with other people having a system similar to this happen to them, in terms of getting brought in where, first of all, it's very strange? A guy who's only a Spec 5 has the rank to be able to go right into the Pentagon. And then the whole thing about him being given a special badge and being able to just go right in.
Corey: Yeah. He had to be accompanied.
David: Is that . . . and then him going down through this long elevator for, God knows how long, and reaching . . . What was your feeling about him getting to that little craft that he described, this little egg-shaped thing where it looked the same on both sides?
Corey: It's a train, a transit system – the underground transit system.
David: So his description is consistent with what you have heard and seen?
Corey: Yes. And that sounds like one of the smaller trams that brings them to different areas within a facility.
David: So he takes this ride, and we have something that sounds a lot like [British accent] “Platform 9 ¾” in Harry Potter. Is there maybe some kind of hologram technology, a projection that makes it look like a wall? What do you think that was?
Corey: Yeah. They've used holographic technology, and holograms within fields that they called “hard light” that actually had . . .
Corey: You know, you could knock on it. You could touch it. Or it could be programmed to be electrical.
David: So it's totally within the bounds of things that you've experienced that his story could be, in fact, genuine.
Corey: Nothing he said raised my eyebrows.
David: So he goes through that wall that's seemingly solid, and then he is seated in front of a Grey that he said was 4 ½ to 5-feet tall. And you noticed there was some reluctance there, in terms of him obviously thinking that our viewers are going to expect Greys to maybe be more like three feel tall.
Corey: Yeah. There are a lot of different types of beings that a lot of people in the UFO community put the “Grey stamp” on. They have a lot of different looks. They come from totally different areas. They're unrelated, but they look very similar.
David: Now, he reported going in front of this Grey that's got these two guys on either side and then having a feeling like a buzz saw inside his mind that actually causes him to pitch forward and fall to the ground. Do you think that's something that they Grey was able to do telepathically?
Corey: It sounds like it was an invasive interface attempt. You know, he wasn't sitting there, opened, indicating that he was ready to interface.
Some of the beings are . . . They're very, very, very powerful, psychically. And they just reach in, and they just grab your mind.
David: All right, now another thing that I thought was really interesting, that there was statements about a satellite 500 miles away from the Earth, and he's shown a series of images in which the zoom keeps going further and further from the Earth, to America, to, I believe it was Long Island, and then a guy on a park bench, and then the headline on the newspaper.
Are you aware of there being perhaps NRO technologies like this in the 1960s?
Corey: Oh, yeah. They've had this for a long time. And the distance he gives of most of the secret military space program objects are further than 400 miles from the Earth.
David: Right. so these are not geostationary satellites at all.
Corey: No, they can be tasked to go to different areas.
David: All right. Well, what we're going to do now is we're going to take you right into the next really fascinating clip that's directly relevant to the one you just saw from Clifford Stone. And this was his first example of where he got to see a UFO at Indiantown Gap.
This is very interesting stuff. So take a look.
INDIANTOWN GAP UFO
Clifford Stone: Now the next thing that involves something of a UFO nature, we were at Indiantown Gap, and we were on a field training exercise. They call it FTX.
So we went to Indiantown Gap. We set up. I had my Deuce and a Half, and I drove my Deuce and a Half.
I had my switchboard in the back of the Deuce and a Half. And I had my field phones that I had to set up to the various locations outside and I handled the switchboard.
And I had two prick-25's. Those are field radios, backpack radios.
So I had those there. One was for the group push – what we'd call battalion push, really. And the other one was for the company push.
So, you know, you had mock traffic and all this stuff that you recorded, like, if it was a real situation.
But a little after midnight we got a call that there was a crash of an aircraft there on the reservation of Indiantown Gap, and that they already had a response team there on station, but they needed a backup response unit to go out there.
I disconnected my field phones, because there wasn't time to pick them all up, and they would get somebody else to move in there. But I did that, and we moved on out.
There were three jeeps and four Deuce and a Halfs – 2 ½ ton trucks – to the best of my recollection. That's the best I can remember.
We went out, and as we approached the area, we were in blackout dry, which means we had no lights on or nothing, but then we saw this area ll lit up, with these big powerful – I think they call them light-alls – shining down into this little area where the Earth had been raised up a little.
And there was like this hill-shaped craft embedded at about a 30º~40º angle into the ground. You could only see the tail end of it.
So as we approach it, I'm wondering, “What the heck is that?” But now they'd already told us that it was an experimental aircraft.
And, as we got closer, I wasn't thinking no more. “Well, it could be an experimental aircraft.” And I wasn't thinking too much. You know, I was thinking, “Okay, well, it could be a delta wing aircraft swept back – anything like that.
But when I got there, as soon as I got out, the guy that I always called the Colonel – this would be my actual first interaction with him.
He went ahead and he told me, “Son, do you have a Geiger counter?” And I said, “I got a APD 27.”
And he says, “That'll work. I need a surface reading on this craft.”
I said, “Do you think there's radioactive material on this aircraft?”
And he says, “We have reason to believe that there may be.”
And I went ahead and said, “Okay.” So I got the APD 27, the military Geiger counter, out.
And he told me, “I want you to walk towards the craft. Go up to the berm of the area where it dug in, and try to get a reading as close to the center of the craft as possible.” And I said, “Okay.”
And he said, “But every couple feet, you go ahead and yell out what type of reading you're getting.”
And while I did this, I'd go ahead, and I'd get closer. And it was a little higher than background radiation, but not a whole lot. Then I got up to the berm. And when I got to the berm, I looked down.
[Emotional response] And when I looked down, there was this . . . It had a canopy on it. And there was this kidney-shaped hatch, for a better word, that was right up against the canopy, but opens to the side. And halfway out was this little creature. Once again, typical Grey.
And, you know, I can't tell you whether it was 3-foot, 4-foot, 5-foot, but [emotional response] it was half out and half in, and I could tell that it was dead.
And I started to say, [emotional] “Excuse me. I need an officer up here.”
And he says, “Just tell us what you see, son.”
And I kept saying back to them, “You know what? You don't understand! I need an officer up here!” [Emotional]
And he said, “Just tell us what you see, son.”
And I said [emotional], “Well, what I'm seeing . . . it's not from this world, and you guys know that.” I said, “Why the hell are we lying? Why are we telling people that these things aren't happening?”
I said, “What do you want me to do now? I need an officer up here.”
And he said, “It's okay, son. Come on back down.”
And I went ahead. I turned around, and I walked back down. And when I walked on back down, I looked the guy that I called the Colonel right in the face, and I said, “What the hell are we doing here?” I said, “You know, there could be others on there hurt.”
And he says, “We'll take care of it. You get back in your Deuce and a Half, and you man your switchboard.”
There's no phones connected up, no nothing. I got back there, and I know it was winter, because I had my field jacket on. It was cold, and the only thing I had for a heater back there was a Coleman lantern. But, you know, I got back there.
The next day, when it was daylight, I looked out, and I saw them moving the craft. And it was a hill-shaped craft.
They put it on back of . . . we called it a lowboy – a 18-wheeler. It's just a flatbed.
We covered it with a tarp, and we moved it out. I have no idea where it went. Then we went back.
We were told that it was an experimental UNMANNED craft, which you didn't hear of drones at that time. And that was the end of it, but the situation, the whole matter, was classified.
No one was to ever talk about it.
Not everybody is trained or has knowledge of what to do or to have any interaction with “our visitors”. And like I say, the people who they [military] need to do this [interface with the “visitors”], they have to find in the civilian sector.
So I think I was the closest thing to that that they had there. So they went ahead and called us in, because they needed the one person, and that was me.
And, see, you feel things. And when I approached, I was feelings things. That's . . . I guess, that's why I get emotional about it.
It's not just looking down there and seeing a little dead guy. You're feeling . . . you're feeling pain. You're feeling loss. You're feeling suffering. You're feeling fear. But it's not like fear that you're going to feel as an individual.
It's just like 1,000 pictures running through your mind that you can see. But the emotions attached to those pictures, they're all there.
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David: All right. Well, that's some pretty intense stuff there. Now, Corey, Indiantown Gap . . . If it's a reservation, I assume that there could be some pretty wide open spaces, some pretty empty areas, in which something like this could happen. And they could kind of swoop in, and not too many people would know about it.
Corey: Some Indian reservations are used. They have installations hidden on various Indian reser . . .
David: Oh, so do you think it's possible that there could be, like, a joint human-extraterrestrial base or maybe an extraterrestrial base around that reservation, and maybe they crashed because they were close to where they would come in?
Corey: I have been informed many times . . .
David: Oh, really?
Corey: . . . that they have installations on Indian reservations in areas that are secluded.
David: Interesting. So you have Stone here, and some skeptics might try to attack him for this or think that he has an ego or something when he says that the whole reason why that detachment was brought out – because they already had people managing the situation, and then his detachment gets brought out. Do you think it is true that that could have all been just because of him?
Corey: Them calling in reinforcements?
Corey: That part was just for him – to get him in.
David: So why would they send a kid out there by himself with a Geiger counter, ostensibly to take radiation readings, but then he walks up and he sees this dead extraterrestrial body? What's the objective of doing that to him?
Corey: They had checked the radiation long before they called in for backup. They already knew what all the radiation readings were. It had nothing to do with radiation.
What it had to do . . . It was a kind of a controlled test, to send him up, get his reaction, and also to see if he detected any life forms that were, you know, still alive.
David: So why do you think, when he keeps calling out, “I need an officer. I need an officer”, that they're telling him just to yell out what he sees? Are they gauging his stress – how much stress can he handle in that situation? Will he break down?
Corey: Yes. They're judging how much stress he's having. They're reading every single thing – his body – everything about him. You know, not all people that have the ability to interface are meant to do so. Some people just don't have the psyche to deal with it.
So this was a major test to see how he reacted. How he did in the days after. And they watched him very closely. And if he fit the bill, then they're like, “Okay, he's an asset now.”
David: Well, and he also said . . . He got very emotional and said, “Why aren't we telling people about this? If this stuff is real, why don't we know?”
Corey: That's a pretty common response.
David: Do you think that in the subsequent days after this that they'd check to see if he tries to blow the whistle . . .
Corey: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
David: . . . or tell somebody?
Corey: Oh, yeah.
David: So they're also gauging his silence.
Corey: Yeah. They were watching him very closely and judging everything that he did, said, everything that happened with the people around him, in the context of how it related to the craft and the being that they exposed him to.
David: Now, he also described seeing what seemed like a flash-forward image of a whole bunch of pictures. He mentioned, like, 1,000 different thought forms, each of which has very intense emotions associated with them, like pain. And it sound from his description as if it was really fast . . .
David: . . . just a very intense, almost overwhelming, experience.
Corey: Yes. And most likely that being that had died . . . When someone or a being dies, there's still residual energy left. And he may have been picking up on that. Everything that that creature felt as it was crashing or afterwards as it was dying – a lot of that residual is in that area. And he walked into that residual field.
David: Have you experienced this sort of flip-book, 1,000 pictures with emotions, type of experience like what he's describing?
Corey: Oh, yeah. Yeah. When you interface, you're not getting words back and forth. You're getting smells, tastes, images. I mean, it's . . . And you have to piece it together in a way to where you can communicate back and forth and turn those experiences – the smells, tastes – into words to report back to the people that are counting on you to interface with the being.
David: Hmm. Well, this is just the beginning of how Stone's testimony lines up so well with yours. But obviously, as we're seeing here, there is a great deal of crossover.
And once again, I believe Sgt. Clifford Stone was one of the most intense Disclosure Project witnesses, because people always say, “Oh, come on. The government isn't picking up these UFOs.”
But clearly you're getting a boots on the ground, very detailed testimony of someone who actually was doing this professionally in the military.
Coming up next time on “Cosmic Disclosure”, we're going to have more of this fascinating content for you to explore with us here. And we'll see you next time. Thank you for watching.