Season 2, Episode 3
DW: Welcome to the world of the shocking, the bizarre, and the seemingly unbelievable Cosmic Disclosure. I'm your host, David Wilcock. We're interviewing Corey Goode, the insider's insider, a man who has as much knowledge crammed into his brain as all the other insiders I've met put together. Truly a fascinating conversation that we're having. Corey, welcome to the show.
CG: Thank you.
DW: We were talking about Lieutenant Colonel Gonzales, who is a mysterious figure that has aroused a great deal of curiosity on the internet. Some people are saying that he's about to come forward. Is that true?
CG: No, there's no plan for him to be coming forward any time.
DW: OK. People on the internet are thinking, well, we just want to see another guy who knows what Corey knows. Why is it a bad idea for Gonzales to come forward?
CG: He is-- he has a cover life here on Earth. He isn't down here very often. If he was to expose himself at this point, it would be very dangerous for him and the operation. He doesn't have any children or family, and some would think that it would be, I guess, safer for him to come forward than me with having a family and children. And I agree to a certain point.
DW: So the Blue Avians obviously have been assisting Solar Warden trying to break out cosmic disclosure for humanity. What's the history of that? What's the history of them contacting you? Because I certainly remember that very amazing day, February 27, 2015, when you told me in a Skype text that the Blue Avians had asked for you by name from the space program alliance. So what's the history here?
CG: As you remember, I was telling you that I was in contact with a being that I wouldn't go into details about, I wouldn't even describe to you.
DW: And I respected you for that, but it was also something that made me extremely curious, that with all of the really outrageous stuff you were telling me, why is he holding back on this? About all I knew was that they were blue, and that was it. I think that's about the only thing you ever said, and that it had something to do with your family and your kids.
CG: Right. And that much I still can't talk about.
CG: But this--
DW: When did this contact happen with you?
CG: It goes back four years.
DW: OK. So four years before 2015 would be 2011, thereabouts. OK.
CG: And it turns out that Lieutenant Colonel Gonzales has been in contact with them for about the exact same timeframe.
DW: So around 2011 as well?
CG: Mm-hmm. And he had been in a liaison role between the Blue Avians and the Solar Warden-- well, the SSP breakaway faction that included Solar Warden. It's not just Solar Warden.
DW: It's not just Solar Warden.
CG: Right. A lot of people have been putting out that it was just Solar Warden. It's kind of a conglomerate of defectors from the different space programs.
CG: And he had been presenting information from the Blue Avians for some time, and then all of a sudden out of the blue, they give him my name and information, and he comes to the SSP council, alliance council, and says, the Blue Avians have chosen this guy to be their delegate. And they were not happy at all about it. They wanted Gonzales to be the delegate.
DW: Without getting into any incriminating detail, what would this cover life be like? Does he have a house? Does he have a car?
CG: Yes. Lives in a house in a rural area.
DW: So people he would tell if he meets somebody that he has a particular job, and there's a whole cover story worked out where that job does exist and he could go there?
CG: I'm very reticent to say anything more.
DW: Oh, no. Absolutely. There's just been this current on the internet of people thinking he's about to join us on a radio show or something, and we needed to specify that that's not about to happen. So you're saying the Avians contacted you and him in 2011. Was this before the new influx of 100 or so visible spheres of the size of the moon Neptune and Jupiter? Was it around the same time? Was it a little bit before?
CG: This was-- it was occurring before, and it was during the influx.
DW: OK. So it kind of seems as if there's a major push being made and that one of the initiatives was to move the spheres in, and another initiative was to grab these delegates starting with Gonzales, and then once you were apparently ready for this job, that then you were also invited in.
CG: Right. I was being prepared, but I had no idea I was being prepared or what I was being prepared for. I was still coming to terms with a lot of my past of what I had been involved in, and when I had gotten to the point where I had come to terms with it, I was dealing with the Blue Avians with some of that information.
DW: So when this contact first happened in your case in 2011, did you actually see them like the Android Jones illustration that we have? Were you seeing these beings, or was it like a blue sphere? What were you actually experiencing?
CG: They first introduced themselves to people in dreams, in a very lucid dream. And then they appear to you physically after they have prepared you through dreams.
DW: Which is exactly what they say in "Law of One" is the same contact protocol.
DW: Yeah. Now they say in "The Law of One" that they discontinued most physical contacts because the people that were getting them would get a big ego and would be worshiped by others as some sort of messianic figure. And one of the things about your story that has really fascinated me is that that prime directive sort of free will clamp-down on in-person contacts seems to have been lifted because of the need of the moment, because we need to get jump started into this golden age, and we need some help getting there.
CG: And after every meeting, I'm heavily warned about ego-- my own ego and this information becoming cultish or religion which it's not supposed to be by any means.
DW: Let's go back to that moment again, and tell us, what did it start with? You said it started with dreams. At what point were you aware that you were in contact with what you're now calling Blue Avians?
CG: I was very aware in the dreams, but it wasn't--
DW: Did they look the same as the illustration in these dreams?
CG: Pretty much. The illustration that is out is not perfect yet, but yes. That's the way they appeared in the dreams--
DW: In the dreams.
CG: --and in person when they finally did appear.
DW: Dreams, a lot of times, will have very odd metaphorical symbolic impossible things going on. You'll look over here, and then you look away, and then it's changing. So did these dreams seem to have that type of symbolic nature, or was it more like a lucid contact?
CG: It was very lucid, very real, very tangible. It was different than any type of dream that I had had before.
DW: So we're getting lots and lots of people on the internet who are trying to say that they've jumped right into this story line with you, that they're having the same contact that you're having, and they're trying to portray themselves as authority figures and act as if their information should be considered equally. What is the way in which most people are being contacted? Because it seems like a lot of these are fraudulent. They don't really line up with what you're hearing. What is the way that most people are being contacted? What is a type of experience that might occur?
CG: Most people are being contacted having experiences with the blue orbs, which is-- the blue orbs are actually the highest density of the sphere being alliance. So I mean, they're higher density than the Blue Avians, but everyone seems to have locked on to-- I guess the Blue Avian, there's something romantic about it. People have locked onto it. But most people are having experiences with the blue spheres.
DW: What would that involve? What's actually happening?
CG: Usually a blue sphere or spheres appear to people and zip around or stop in front of them and pulse, and people receive either a message they remember consciously, or they just think they just saw a very cool thing and don't understand that they received a message subconsciously, or their higher self received a message. And they're receiving a message from these higher density beings for future reasons.
DW: Well, this is really mind-blowing, and we've talked about this privately, but I want to get this on camera. It is going to involve a little bit of self-disclosure and a little monologue from me, but it's very important. I had read "The Law of One" and the "Seth" books. Both Carla Rueckert and Jane Roberts, the channels of two of the best channels in modern times in my opinion-- both had these blue orb visitations very clearly delineated in the books. I was so aware of it that I was frustrated and said, why haven't they done that with me? Because one thing it says in "The Law of One" is that they will try to get to you telepathically. They don't want to have to do an in-person contact if they can avoid it. If they can get you involved like they did with me telepathically, that's better. So one day I'm in North Carolina visiting a friend. I'm meditating in a field. I see a UFO-- first time I'd ever seen one. It goes behind a cloud. The cloud goes away. It's gone. But because I'm meditating, I'm just like, OK. Well, now I've seen a UFO. Big deal. The only other thing I want-- and I said this is like a prayer-- the only other thing that I wish would happen that hasn't happened is I want an orb of light to appear in my room and give me an intelligent message just like what happened to Carla and what happened to Jane Roberts. Then I called my father a couple days later, and it turns out that my brother was on the other line at the same time. And he patches us both in together. I said, Dad, you realize this is synchronicity, right? He's like, oh, oh. Then my brother says, after I talk about my UFO sighting, said, well, that's funny. Something weird happened to me too. I said, what's that? He said, this orb of light appeared in my room and gave me an intelligent message. And in his case, he was meditating, and his head actually dropped back, and then he saw this orb appear near the ceiling, and it spread out to about four or five feet wide, and it was like a vortex tunnel. It was an actual stargate in his ceiling pulsing, and we have a whole article on my website from 2001 called "David's Brother Receives In-Person ET Contact." And it gave him a message, and it said, the ascension that your brother is writing about will not happen all at once. It will be a series of increasingly uplifting inspirational experiences. You have had the first of these experiences, which was mind-blowing. So how do you think-- how did that strike you when I told you that my brother had this experience back in 2001 that was already in print on my website?
CG: I had no idea, but there are many, many tens and now hundreds of thousands of people that are having these experiences right now.
DW: Has Gonzales had this type of thing too? Is that part of how it worked for him?
DW: OK. What is Gonzales's role at this point? What's the difference between how he got contacted and how you got contacted? He was in the space program when this happened.
CG: The contacts happened exactly the same way, and he has been named a secret space program delegate. He's a delegate between the secret space program and the Blue Avians. I have been named a delegate between the Blue Avians and the secret space program alliance and a whole of the other groups they want to meet with but will not meet with one-on-one. And I have been put in the situation to meet in all these different federation council meetings, and he has accompanied me to several of these.
DW: Have there been trips that you've taken up into space since this all started that did not involve Gonzales, where you never saw him?
CG: Yes, but most recently, he's been very much a part of them. And when I was out here doing the last shoot at Gaiam, there were two extremely important meetings that were time-sensitive that he had to stand in, and one was with the Draco Federation Alliance, and that was a very traumatic meeting for him. But the second meeting was much more awe-inspiring and pleasant for him. And this was with the super federation of 40 main groups of ETs that were involved in these 22 different genetic and other experiments going on with humanity. And there were 20 other, making 60 groups, that are overall involved in this grand experiment.
DW: And this is some of your earliest experiences in space, right, was being a part of this? So just to briefly recap, what did you originally do when you went to these super federation conferences? How old were you, and what was your job?
CG: I was very young. I was barely in my teenage, pre-teen age years, and I was in an intuitive empath role, which now each of us, when we arrive, we have three intuitive empaths with us that intuitive empaths are there to detect deception or danger. And that's what I did, but now when Gonzales or I go to these meetings, we have that type of support for us.
DW: Were the beings in the super federation aware that you were there to detect deception?
CG: Yes. They all have this type of role.
CG: I've described the large shuttle vessel that is modular. It can be changed for any type of mission. It's about 50, 60 feet long, and this vessel took him and his support team out to an area that's around the gas giants, usually in between-- around Jupiter and Saturn. And this is an area that you would not be able to see with a telescope it's inside a temporal distortion bubble, and you enter in this distortion, and you exit in the exact same place you entered from.
DW: Just like the fairy ring.
CG: And when you enter in, it is completely black. You don't see any stars. You don't see the sun. You don't see any planets. Completely black.
DW: Does the sun-- nothing is visible at all.
CG: Nothing. All you see is the station that the council meetings take place at.
DW: And what about other people's ships?
CG: You'll see other ships going to the dual docking arms, so his vessel docks. Him and his crew get off, and this is the first time that he had been actually acknowledged because he had been there basically in a support role before with me, and they had only acknowledged me because I was there as the delegate.
DW: Can you just help us out here-- the visual like this is a movie now? What are we seeing? Is it like a whole city? Is it a structure that's just big enough to hold the council, or could there be a lot of other stuff going on in it?
CG: Yeah, it's an extremely advanced space station. And as he exited the ship and started walking down the passageways towards the main hall, the main federation council hall, he was walking, and people were acknowledging him for the first time, and there's a main foyer area to where people meet and greet before they walk into the main hall. And when you walk into the main hall, everyone sits is kind of like a horseshoe shape, and there's a main chair that's elevated, and then three chairs are lowered, and there's a rail that goes around.
DW: So there's one horseshoe for each of these 40 groups?
CG: For each delegation. And then the delegate sits in the chair, and then they have one advisor that usually stands to the back left. In this case, the room was extremely crowded. They knew that there was a big announcement going to be made, so it was like standing room only. They had extra delegation chairs for the full 60 group was there. And then they had seating and standing room area for a whole bunch of others.
He said that he was very excited to sit in his chair, because before when he had arrived, when I sat in the chair, it had operated like a universal translator to this universal strange ET language that was very monotone, and no one else heard or understood. And so he sat in a chair, expected some sort of weird sensation, but nothing. But he sat in the chair, and a being came up and made the announcements.
There was one of the beings that we're very familiar with that-- pumpkin-colored skin, large blue eyes, has a ridge that goes from ear to ear, very tall that wears kind of like a monk's type of robe-- and introduced him, announced for him to come to the front. And he went to the front and made an announcement that many were hoping to hear, that the inner barrier around the Earth was going to be relaxed so that many of the ETs that were trapped on Earth that were benevolent, that were here studying our oceans, studying our jungles could care less about humanity, that were just here to study our ecosystem, that were having a lot of problems being stuck here for so long, being stuck on earth.
DW: They were running out of supplies or--
CG: They were having all sorts of problems. They could then rejoin their support teams that were waiting for them outside the Earth's orbit far away. And the IEs all said when this announcement was made, there was a huge relief felt in the room. So he made the announcement that they were going to go back to the old style of grid patrols and kind of like an air traffic control of allowing people to come and go.
And then he went back and sat in his chair, and then the typical thing that happened when I was at the meetings. Each of the 40 groups just went to the front and did like a real short two-minute synopsis of how they have contributed to humanity and the grand experiment and why they are so great, why they've done what wonderful things they've done, and then they went back and sat in their chair one after another.
And then afterwards, they returned to their shuttle and returned back to debrief.
DW: What is it that these beings think they've done that's so valuable to us?
CG: They think that this grand experiment has been a great contribution to the entire galaxy.
DW: To the galaxy?
CG: Yeah, and beyond. They think it-- the Blue Avians have stated that even though some of these beings are very benevolent in our eyes, that they are still agenda-oriented and, therefore, a certain percentage service theirself.
DW: Are they seeing us as like a master race, like they're trying to mix up the ultimate human?
CG: There's like 22 agendas, and some of them are competing. And then also, we have the Draco agenda and all that, so it's very complicated.
DW: How could we benefit the galaxy though? I'm not sure I'm getting this.
CG: When you say "we," you're talking about this flesh and blood.
CG: This is also a spiritual and a much larger experiment than most people realize. Some of these beings are incarnating as us.
DW: That's one of the programs, you're saying.
CG: Part of one of the programs. So some of these people that are starseeds or wanderers, and there are some of these groups here.
DW: Well, "Are You a Wanderer?" That title is our most popular "Wisdom Teachings" episode, and we have a questionnaire on there that you can watch that has details on if you have these characteristics, if you can answer these questions, then you're most likely an ET soul.
CG: And most of the people that are being contacted by these blue orbs are starseeds, are wanderers, and these cabal groups, I guess for lack of a better word, are very, very interested in starseeds and co-opting them and using them for, I guess, the dark side.
DW: So what is the cabal doing to try to find these wanderers and starseeds? What is their modus operandi?
CG: Well, they have many different ways, but with me, it was using standardized testing in schools. They constantly have people out there that are on the lookout for people with certain signs that show certain abilities, and then they find ways to further test them and see if they meet criteria.
DW: These people don't consciously remember in their physical incarnation that their past life was extraterrestrial.
DW: They are bound by rules, where they have to play human and seem like they're just another ordinary person.
CG: Right. And the blue spheres visiting these people-- this is a part of an awakening experience. These people are going through an awakening right now as to what their role is, what their mission is in this lifetime, why they're here.
DW: Is this super federation aware of the energetic change that's going on with the sun, these tsunamis of energy you're talking about?
CG: Very much so.
DW: What's their involvement with that? How do they see that?
CG: Many of them had planned on being out of here when this happened for whatever reason, and that was the purpose of the outer barrier was to keep everyone that has had anything to do with the tinkering of our biosphere and humanity here, not to let them escape.
DW: Well, there is a line in "The Law of One" where it says that when this quantum leap takes place, if you're not ready to go to fourth density that your third density electromagnetic body will fail due to incompatibility. So that line would suggest that if these people are too heavily third density, and they're not pure enough to be able to go through this transformation that it would actually be like a death sentence for them-- crispy critters.
CG: Right. And a lot of what these ETs and the Blue Avians-- a lot of what they believe and work off of is what I hear in natural law and "The Law of One."
DW: What is natural law exactly?
CG: I'm learning a lot of these things. In the beginning, when I first started contacting you, and you were telling me-- I had heard, read a little bit about "Law of One." I still-- I need to learn more about "The Law of One." I need to learn--
DW: The Blue Avians told you to buy the book, and I saw it in your room.
CG: Yeah, and my wife has been reading it.
DW: And it hasn't even been cracked?
CG: No, my wife is almost through reading it.
DW: OK. She's a very clean reader then, because it looks brand new.
CG: Yeah. I haven't even read it. So I'm not doing exactly as well as I should be doing and learning some of these things.
DW: Wow, but you've done an amazing job risking your life coming forward. We're going to have a lot more to talk about. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and I thank you for watching because you need to know the truth.