Season 5, Episode 1
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. I'm here with Corey Goode, and in this episode, we are going to get into the cosmic history of our solar system. We're going to go through the actual timeline of who settled here, and what are the pieces of information that we have, because we've had a lot of different things, but we've never really tied it all together before. And we're going to try to get you from the beginning to now, and fill in all the cracks of what Corey firsthand experienced in the Space Program.
So Corey, welcome to the show.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
David: So if the universe is 13.8 billion years old, the Earth formed four billion years ago. It cools down for liquid water 3.8 billion years ago. That's when microbes first appear. So we know that's going on.
We know the Earth was a watery planet 3.8 billion years ago. So theoretically, somebody could have landed on it that far back, but what do we know about the actual habitation of our solar system? What's the tangible evidence? What's the oldest stuff that we know about?
Corey: Well, according to the smart glass pads, the tangible evidence that is around is in the form of ancient ruins. And they begin to label these ruins as the Ancient Builder Race ruins. And they weren't able to accurately date them because they were so ancient that it was in the hundreds of millions, if not billions, years old.
David: So you're saying that these ruins appear, and you said they were excavated? They're digging stuff out from where? Where were they excavated from?
Corey: On different planetary bodies in our solar system anywhere from Venus all the way out to the Oort Cloud.
David: So they were sometimes underground. They'd been buried, and they had to be dug out.
Corey: Yes, sometimes they're deep. Sometimes they're on the surface covered in debris, and sometimes they're deep inside whatever planetoid or planetary body that they're excavating.
David: So what are we seeing with these ruins? What do they look like?
Corey: Well, they were finding a lot of the, what we described as, a transparent alloy, aluminum-type alloy. This was also a technology. They were finding that . . . I guess, they were impregnating this alloy with other small technologies that could make the glass go opaque or dark or maybe even display technology. So it was pretty advanced technology. And a lot of the times, they didn't know what they were finding at first. Sometimes they were finding stone-like artifacts that turned out to be technology, but they didn't understand what they were finding.
David: And what's the timeline when these were first being discovered?
Corey: I believe . . . Being discovered off world . . . They were the German breakaway groups that were beginning space travel before and during World War II were locating these things.
David: Okay. What are the buildings struc . . . We said they're made out of transparent aluminum, but what do they actually look like? Like if you're seeing something that might be billions of years old, what do we actually see when we fly over it or come up to it?
Corey: A lot of these that were on the surface looked like they had been through some major blast waves. They were twisted, bent back. They were not pristine by any stretch of the imagination. They were . . . I mean, they were a mess. The ones that they would find below ground or ones that had been covered prior to whenever this blast wave happened, or whatever occurred to cause the damage, would be more preserved.
But they were having . . . There was a lot of mystery. They didn't know who the Ancient Builder Race was - where they came from. They weren't able to find any writing.
David: Well, let's just get into . . . Were their domes? What do the structures look like – the ones that were not blasted?
Corey: Yeah, there would be all different . . . There would be collapsed domes, rectangular structures, that were . . . and towers, or what used to be towers standing. There were a lot of different shapes and sizes of structures.
David: And you'd mentioned before pyramids and obelisks.
David: A lot of those?
Corey: Yes, and most of those were found underground.
David: Inside the Inner Earth stuff?
Corey: Inside not only the Earth, but on some of these planetary bodies, they were finding them inside, finding rectangular and pyramid kind of shaped facilities or outposts.
David: So the pyramid shape seems to have been important to these people?
Corey: Yeah, apparently. And when I was reading the smart glass pad, I really didn't understand sacred geometry and all of the stuff that I've learned since from watching “Wisdom Teachings” and other things. So I didn't understand the significance of it back then. And I don't think they did either. If they did, I didn't see it displayed.
David: Richard C. Hoagland's top insider, who I've been calling Bruce, told me that, “We live in a cosmic junkyard.” That's the way he talked about it.
David: And I didn't really understand until what you're saying now why he phrased it that way. It's all really smashed up stuff on the surface, huh?
David: It doesn't look very attractive.
Corey: They have to really search to find anything of use.
David: Wow! When we're seeing smashed transparent aluminum, it's glass-like, but when you say it has a burnt appearance, does it look like there's char marks on it, or what's the nature of the damage? Does it still look like glass but just all broken?
Corey: Some of it. Some of it will still look like glass, but it's so ancient that it looks . . . I mean, it's just very brittle. It's not transparent anymore.
David: If it's on a moon, does it get like regolith on it like moon dust?
Corey: Yeah, right.
David: So it's all covered in dust?
David: So you might not even know that you're seeing something that's twisted and turned over.
Corey: Your eye will pick out that it's not something natural, but you'll really have to look close to see the detail a lot of the time.
David: Okay. Now you had said something to me right when I was finishing the book, because this whole topic that we're discussing now, the whole second half of my new book, “The Ascension Mysteries”, goes into this in great detail. And you blew my mind, because we've been talking about this, but I've never heard you say this until we were doing that briefing talk for the book. What happens when we go out of the solar system?
Corey: They find the exact same thing in what they call our local star cluster, which is a group of stars that is around 50 stars in our area that are connected by this cosmic web.
David: Right. And I'll just point out that when I did the research when you told me about this, I found some interesting things. So I want to ask you a couple questions on that.
Local cluster - because this is an important part of our history when we get into the Ancient Builder Race. These stars in our local cluster, they have some bizarre interaction, you were saying. So could we get into what that interaction is? What makes the local cluster different? How do those stars behave with each other as opposed to the stars that are further away from the local cluster?
Corey: They behave sort of like a . . . It's kind of weird to say this, but not really a group consciousness or hive kind of thing, but they're all connected on a deep energetic level with each other, and so are all of the beings that are residing in those star systems.
And apparently, all of these different star systems in this local star cluster were under protection of this Ancient Builder Race. And they had some sort of protective grid up, and they left. The Ancient Builder Race disappeared, and this protective grid was up for millions to billions of years.
David: Okay, but we're . . . I don't want to miss this one point because it's so significant. The local cluster is the stars that are nearest to us. When did our guys first have the ability to leave the solar system with a craft, first of all, that you know of?
Corey: They've had the ability since probably the '20s and '30s.
David: So even the German breakaway groups could leave the solar system. There was no barrier or technical problem stopping them from going elsewhere.
Corey: Right. Well, no technical problem, but it's not advisable to hop around to these different star systems without making the political connections first.
David: You could get shot down if you show up?
Corey: Yeah. The Germans were pioneering and making a lot of these connections.
David: Well, you had mentioned before the idea that there's a partial disclosure timeline that the Cabal was going to try.
David: And one of the elements of that partial disclosure timeline, from what I remember us talking about, is that they're going to try to sell us on the idea that they haven't left the solar system, that there's some problem. What's their idea? How are they going to try to sell us on space travel, but then you can't leave the solar system?
Corey: There's several scenarios I've heard, but yeah, one of the scenarios was that they were going to try to tell us about the Ancient Builder Race, tell us maybe that ETs existed at one time, but they never come around here anymore.
Corey: And we've developed technologies from reverse engineering, and that's about it.
David: So the bottom line is that in order for us to travel to other star systems all the way back in the '30s, there has to have been very early along an understanding, I assume, of the cosmic web, or are they portaling to these stars? Or are they traveling . . . Did they have super light speed travel? How were they doing it?
Corey: Well, it's a combination. They were traveling through portals in the beginning. That was the main travel. And when they developed craft, and they were developing these torsion drives, they then had superluminal travel.
David: Okay. And when did this superluminal travel come in?
Corey: They had superluminal travel back before World War II and through, but the United States was behind the German secret society groups and some of these secret groups that had been developing these technologies. They were decades behind.
David: Okay. Well, I think this is an important context, because when we're talking about the solar system history, some of these partial disclosure timelines do apparently involve them trying to tell us there's an energetic barrier, or there's some kind of problem or radiation or something that prevents them from leaving the solar system.
So when we did leave the solar system, when we did get into star systems, and we were not shot down, how much of this Ancient Builder Race stuff did we find? Did we find it on planets, moons? Did we find it in satellites floating around? Exactly, what . . .?
Corey: They found . . . Almost identical to what they found here, they found in other star systems in our local star cluster.
David: And you said what they found here is all over the place – all the moons, all the planets that are solid. They're just loaded with stuff.
David: So this is huge to me, because what you're now saying is we have this star cluster, 50 stars or more. They all have planets, or most of them have planets. And everywhere you go, it's the same stuff. And is it all equally ancient?
David: And it's all smashed like it was here? Or is it . . .
Corey: I don't know.
David: Or do we have more damage here? Okay, you don't know.
Corey: I don't know. I don't know a whole lot of the details about what was found in other star systems. I would not assume that it would be exactly in the same condition here because of what happened later.
David: All right. So you're saying that the planets in these star systems were governed by this ancient Builder Race. They were essentially protecting them. What form does this protection take place? Is there some sort of physically measurable technology or artifact associated with that protective grid that you'd mentioned?
Corey: Yes. The delivery system for whatever protection or weaponry that they had was in the form of giant spheres the size of moons, almost the size of planets. And they, in most cases, were moons that were hollowed out or carved out, excavated, and then they were used, built out as stations. And in some of them, they've shown signs of having outside holes, being giant moon-sized outside holes. I mean they're huge.
David: So you can actually see that it's metallic or some sort of structure . . .
David: . . . just by looking at it?
Corey: Well, I've heard reports of it. I haven't seen the images myself, but . . . And I don't know exactly where those were.
David: How many of these would there be in a given star system within the cluster?
Corey: I don't know.
David: But it's more than one, right?
Corey: Oh, yeah.
David: There's multiple “Death Star” moons in any given cluster.
Corey: Right. Right.
David: So this is truly a staggering discovery. It goes so far beyond what I had thought I knew up until recently, and it just shows to me the power of asking you a question you already knew the answer to, but I just never thought to ask the question before. Because now, this Ancient Builder Race thing, it's much bigger than just something that happened here in our solar system. We're talking about a huge amount of development. And the size of that population . . . Do you have any idea how many people there were?
Corey: No idea. It was a very large civilization. There is so little known about it. It was a big question mark.
Corey: And they knew that it was an advanced technology. They really wanted to acquire the technology that in the beginning we didn't recognize as technology, but once we did, we started going out looking for it big time. But, yeah, whoever they were, they disappeared, and then other groups came in. And any writing or any type of information that would give us history was removed, just like kings come in and wipe away the writing of the old king, the history.
David: Okay. Now, the next thing that I'm aware of from Hoagland's insider, Bruce, is he said the newest information is that Earth's moon was put into position around the Earth 60 million years ago after the fall of the dinosaurs, and that it is a gigantic civilization inside the moon.
Did you personally encounter information about the moon being 60 million years old?
Corey: The information . . .
David: That it was positioned 60 million years ago.
Corey: The information that I read on the smart glass pad, from what I remember, 500,000 years ago was the timeline that I seem to remember the best.
David: Right. Bruce said that was the prevailing theory up until recently, and now they've had new information that makes them say the moon is 60 million years old.
Corey: His information's probably updated from the information I was reading.
David: Yeah. Did you ever hear about the moon being called an ark?
David: Okay. So do you think it's possible that this new interpretation of the moon's age, that perhaps, the dinosaurs were deliberately destroyed by the asteroid, and that life was seeded from the moon, that the moon had a whole bunch of life in it that they then put on Earth?
Corey: Yeah, that was a speculation that it was not an accident, that the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs was not happenstance. It was directed.
David: Do you think that that might have partially been because of the Raptors, that there was a nasty intelligent dinosaur that developed?
Corey: That's unknown, but from the experiences that I've read reported with the beings that moved underground that have developed into the Raptors or whatever, that wouldn't surprise me.
David: So if we go with the 60 million-year-old moon and that it was an ark, would you say that it was like a used car, that it was kind of old and broken down by the time they drove it over here?
Corey: Yes. This is technology that was hundreds of millions, if not billions, years old. And there were other civilizations that know about this technology. They really want to acquire it, and they're hijacking it all the time.
David: So the moon could be driven like a car through the cosmic web. Theoretically, when it's in its prime, you could drive around with it, take it where you want it to go.
Corey: That's consistent with what I read.
David: Do you think that there's enough space inside the moon that it could bring a whole planet worth of life from one place to another?
Corey: You know, it depends in what form they brought it. If they brought it in the form of DNA and then came here and cloned it, maybe.
Corey: Kind of like we have that DNA bank, ark that we're starting.
David: Sure. So if someone came in with the moon 60 million years ago, then that could account for some of these discoveries we read about in the Thompson and Cremo's book, “Forbidden Archaeology”, like this chain that's found in 220-million-year-old rock, that kind of stuff.
Corey: Yeah, it could be. And then there's a lot of ancient civilizations that have risen and fallen on the Earth over millions of years that some of their artifacts could have found their way into some weird places over the years as the ebb and flow occurs on the surface through all these changes that happen.
David: So I guess the next thing in our timeline would be the Inner Earth civilizations, and that, you said, starts when?
Corey: Well, at the time, we really didn't have much information on them in the smart glass pads. It wasn't until more recently that the Inner Earth groups claimed to have been here almost 20 million years.
Corey: So that is more recent information.
David: And are they saying that they came from other stars within our local cluster?
Corey: They're saying that they developed on our planet, that our planet is . . . that all planets develop life. That's what they do, and that they are a product of our planet creating life.
David: Okay. So let's now go to the next big thing after Inner Earth civilizations. We have them showing up. They're telling you 18 million years ago at the oldest, but this didn't all happen at once. It wasn't like they all appeared at the same time, right?
Corey: Right. Yeah, there were different groups. Some of them were as recent as like 28~30,000 years ago.
Corey: I mean very, very recent. And the different groups, they went back like 250,000 . . . I mean, they were different lengths in time. And they looked different.
David: Right. So do we have any information about when different groups showed up? Or does it not get that specific?
Corey: It doesn't get that specific until we move into the Super Earth and Maldek or Mars.
Corey: And we're getting around 500,000 years ago. There was information that there was some sort of conflict going on. Looking back, it seems it was a conflict going on between Mars and the Super Earth. And one of the groups had hijacked or hacked into one of these, I guess you call them Death Stars, moons, and they were trying to use it as a weapon against the other side. And in doing so, this is when the Super Earth exploded, and it brought down the rest of the grid in the entire star cluster.
David: If the grid is down, what happens? What's the effect of that?
Corey: Well, when the grid came down, all of these other groups that had stayed away, because they were not going to come anywhere near this defense grid – it was very advanced. Once the grid came down, it was open range. They came in and started interfering with all the civilizations in the local star cluster.
David: So the explosion you say took place 500,000 years ago?
Corey: Approximately, yeah.
David: What's the first group that comes in?
Corey: We believe it's the Super Federation groups that came in, that started coming in first. And the Super Federation is made up of all kinds of groups. So members of the Super Federation, different members, started coming in about 500,000 years ago. Immediately . . .
David: So right after
Corey: Right after.
Corey: They were monitoring. They knew it happened. They came in. And then about 375,000, 365,000 years ago, don't really know, that's when they say the Draco came in. So the Draco came in at the same time that we have waves of what they call refugees coming here from survivors of this big catastrophe that brought down the grid, destroyed the planet. So we have a lot going on. So it starts to become pretty convoluted and confusing at one point.
David: So when did the earliest refugees from the exploded planet . . . because it's not just a planet, right? They had colonized our solar system.
David: They have stuff all over the place. So it can't be that all of them got wiped out when the planet blew up.
Corey: Right. And according to the information I had at the time, which now your new information calls into question, the moon arrived with survivors in it.
Corey: And the information I read said it was around 500,000 years ago, almost immediately after the catastrophe.
David: So we have these people living inside the Earth. We have refugees coming to the Earth. We have Mars destroyed and Maldek destroyed at the same time. When we get into “Law of One”, it describes that the first third-density life on Earth was 75,000 years ago, and that it started with people that were reincarnating from the Mars destroyed civilization.
So “Law of One” describes three cycles of 25,000 years and that there's catastrophes at the end of each cycle. So we have a civilization rising and falling kind of scenario. So is that how you see it as well that there's . . .
Corey: Yes. And what was mentioned to me by the Inner Earth group, the Anshar, is that there were major and minor cataclysms that were occurring throughout these cycles.
And after the Super Earth exploded, for quite some time, there was debris flying all around our solar system. And debris from that super planet flew out all the way out toward the Oort Cloud, and then it was pulled back in by the sun. And we're in all these strange orbits, and the debris would end up hitting the Earth and other planets. This occurred for some time. It was crazy in our solar system for a while. It was like billiards.
David: So since we're doing a timeline here, I guess Lemuria might be another thing that everybody's going to want to know about. When did . . . Did you hear anything about a civilization in the Pacific Ocean thereabouts?
Corey: I'm sure the information was in there exactly where they were, but this was awhile ago that I was reading this. But it was telling pretty much the timelines and what they were finding.
David: Anything about a civilization in the Pacific?
Corey: Yeah, there were . . . On just about every continent, there were civilizations that they found traces of.
David: Okay. So in this timeline, if we're zipping through Lemuria, I guess that brings us up to Atlantis next. So let's talk about . . . Do we get more information? Does it get easier to trace what's going on once we get into the Atlantis period?
Corey: Well, a lot of the information . . . There were books that had a lot of information in them that were scribed back during this time period that these secret society types had access to. And this is information that was heavily guarded, and I think you've talked about some of the information like they even had bloodline information going back many years.
Corey: So a lot of this information was kept in these secret books that now are in the Vatican and some other secret places.
David: The amount of warring civilizations that we see in the Hindu Mahabharata is one interesting thing to look at. It appears that there were multiple groups on Earth at one time openly having advanced technology and warring with each other. Are you aware of a similar situation from what the smart glass pad said? Was there a time where you had various colonist groups all warring and interacting simultaneously on Earth?
Corey: Not only on Earth, but in the solar system.
Corey: Yes. Even on the moon, there are areas where up until fairly recent times, in our current accepted history timeline, that there were wars. And those areas are left as a memorial or a reminder of the wars. And then some sort of deal was struck to keep those types of wars from occurring again.
Corey: But there were open wars and conflicts even in the skies early in our current era.
David: So we're dealing with a very complex story. It's not something that can be easily condensed down into one thing. When we're talking about the civilization of Atlantis, is that a conglomerate group of different civilizations, actually, and not just one?
Corey: Yeah. That's what was explained to me is that we've kind of taken the name and overlaid it on a couple of civilizations. The civilization that was due to an asteroid that came in and caused the great flood and all of that, was, I think, the one that most people associate with actual Atlantis.
David: Right. When we're looking at Native American literature, and we're seeing these various benevolent gods showing up to people there, and this is obviously something that's going back to people rebuilding from Atlantis, having been destroyed, who are they and how do they factor in? Because this seems to be a worldwide thing that happens after Atlantis' flood.
Corey: And it seems that these gods that were coming back, bringing back civilization, were a combination of different non-terrestrials and people that we're calling Inner Earth groups.
David: Okay. All right. Well, I think we've got a pretty good view now of the history from how it started up until what most people are familiar with from conventional research sources. So Corey, I want to thank you for bringing all this information to our attention. And I want to thank you for watching. This is Cosmic Disclosure. I'm here with Corey Goode. I'm your host, David Wilcock.