Cosmic Disclosure: Life After Disclosure

Season 6, Episode 14



David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. We're here with Corey Goode, and in this episode, we're going to kind of go into dessert instead of always just eating dinner, the dessert being what happens when we have life after Disclosure.

Here to talk more about it is Corey Goode. Corey, welcome to the program .

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: We spent a lot of time talking about aspects of your testimony that are going to be very hard for people to swallow given the learning curve, the amount of novelty of what you're describing, how unusual this is.

Are you seeing a positive future coming out of all this stuff that we're doing on this show? I guess that's where we should start.

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Corey: Well, whether our future is positive or not is still in play. That is fully up to us. But I think that what we're doing on this show, and what others are doing in this field, are definitely bringing us closer to some sort of a Disclosure.

David: You mentioned that we may not have a positive outcome, and that depends on us. Could you be a little bit more specific, because that's a little provocative?

Corey: Well, people that heard my update, heard me speak in my update, when Tear-Eir said that there is an optimal timeline that we are trying to achieve, but us as human beings, our co-creative consciousness, are directing us on this path.

So if we don't get out there as a community and help raise the awareness and consciousness of others, then we're not necessarily going to find ourselves on that optimal timeline.

David: Well, I guess then before we get to dessert, what would the suboptimal timeline potentially look like? Are we dealing with a catastrophic type of reality at some point?

Corey: It's speculation. We don't know. There are so many different realities that we could create for ourselves. As a group consciousness being, we haven't decided where we want to go yet, and we're in the middle of making that decision right now.

David: So let's say that that consciousness starts to make better choices. What would be some of those steps that would be maybe a more predictable through-line of Disclosure?

So what might people start to see that you could say now that they can go back and say, “Corey said that and boom!”

Corey: Well, we're definitely going to start having more reports, photos, video, of these triangular-shaped craft and some of these oval-shaped craft that they use. They are planning on doing a Partial Disclosure event to where they're going to just tell us about a program that they have in low-Earth orbit – a couple of satellites and these triangular locus craft that take off that the Air Force controls.

David: But wait a minute. You've never mentioned on this show, at least, triangular locus craft. What do you mean by that?

Corey: Well, these triangular craft that people see that everyone labels TR-3B.

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David: Okay. So you mentioned two satellites?

Corey: Yes.

David: Let's talk about that for a second. This is part of what you're calling the lower-levels Secret Space Program?

Corey: Right. And the technology of these satellites, which they're stations. They're space stations. The last I heard, there were two. And they're being serviced on a daily basis by these triangular craft.

David: Obviously cloaked or something.

Corey: No, not necessarily. They have perspective in their favor. If you have a triangular craft, it's at 90,000 feet, flying fast. You're not going to be able to discern what it is.

David: It's almost just like one pixel in human vision.

Corey: Right.

David: Right.

Corey: Right. So we're on the verge of this DIA, NSA program being revealed, and the technology will be maybe 50 years ahead of what we have right now. It's barely more advanced than the International Space Station.

David: What are we looking at? You say a satellite. People could think of a rolling tin can with some solar panels on it. That doesn't seem to be what you're talking about.

Corey: No, no. They have manned satellites where they'll switch out crews. Two, three people will be on some of these satellites, but they also have larger space stations, circular space stations.

David: Circular.

Corey: Yeah. But that's a part of what I've been calling the Lower Level Military-Intelligence Program.

David: So what would be the next step? Let's say that you are proven correct, and they announce that there are International Space Station-type things but bigger and a little more advanced, and they announced that flying triangles exist.

Where does that get us? I mean . . .

Corey: Well, that would get us just a little bit into the Partial Disclosure timeline.

David: Okay.

Corey: That is what these groups are working for. They want a Partial Disclosure, that this type of information to come out, no information about aliens in the beginning, and then slowly give us chunks.

If you remember back . . . Was it around 1980 when we first found out about the Stealth Bomber?

David: Right.

Corey: Everybody's, “Oh, that's real cool.” And then it became old news very quickly.

David: Right.

Corey: They're expecting the same thing to happen with this Lower-Level Secret Space Program.

David: Do you have any idea of what some of the increments might be after we become comfortable with the idea of these circular satellites and triangular craft servicing them and visiting them?

Corey: I really don't. I know there are a lot of different plans that are being negotiated. Pretty much the Earth Alliance and these secret Earth syndicates have come together and agreed on something, and that something being humanity cannot take a Full Disclosure event.

It would be chaos, and they're right. It will be.

A Full Disclosure event is not going to be a “Kumbaya moment” where everyone holds hands and we're all excited. It's going to be very disturbing, upsetting, and it's going to be a process that us as humanity, we're going to have to work through.

David: If we had the data dumps that you had mentioned before that had been prepared, would those data dumps involve a Full Disclosure if they did happen?

Corey: Yes. Yes. The data dumps are the full data.

And they've now decided, because of the different kill switch for the Internet, ways to bring down electrical grids to keep the information from getting out until they remove it from the system, they have decided that they're not going to do an all-in-one data dump, document dump.

They're going to do it in spurts, and most likely, it's going to be a tit-for-tat kind of data dump release – the Alliance releasing information about the Cabal and theirselves, but mostly looking negative about the Cabal.

And the Cabal's going to say, “Hey, wait a minute. We weren't the only ones with dirty hands. Look what this so-called Alliance has been doing the whole time.”

David: So in a life after Disclosure, one of the things that probably will happen based on what you just said is some sort of understanding on a mass level that there was an organized cult running world politics. Do you think that's in the cards as part of the Partial Disclosure?

Corey: No.

David: No?

Corey: No, not as I've heard it described. They're going to try to keep all of the worst stuff hidden, you know, the crimes against humanity, all of the things that they've done here on Earth to people to keep the secret.

That kind of stuff, they're not going to want in public for a while.

David: When we get to the point that extraterrestrials start to become involved in this, how do you see that changing our society?

Like for example, you've talked about Ambassador Mica in some of our earlier updates, and he's describing what happened to his planet. And I know that you've met with him more than since the last time we had updates.

So could you get a little bit more into what the really big picture perspective is like, not just this drip, drip, drip disclosure, but once we really truly have gotten through that horrible, breaking-through experience, and we get the full knowledge of what's going on.

Corey: I think that is going to take a generation or two. I mean, we're so programmed in our different belief systems, the way we've lived and the way we're programmed to worship.

It's going to be very difficult to bring in beings that we would consider higher than us, spiritually, technologically, without us feeling this compunction to give away our sovereignty or to worship them.

David: Right.

Corey: We're going to have to overcome that as well, and that's going to take a while.

David: Or to want to destroy them.

Corey: Or . . . yeah. And Ambassador Mica said that in the beginning, they don't expect us to have open arms towards non-terrestrials.

They expect us to be very leery of any being not from this planet.

David: Now, the Blue Avians, at one point, had told you that the Alliance was not to be attacking any ICC or other faction facilities in our solar system because it was going to be handed over to humanity.

Corey: Right. The entire infrastructure is going to be handed over to humanity once we're gotten through this process, and we'll be a “Star Trek” civilization overnight, because all the infrastructure is already up there.

David: Is there any type of standard boundary around the experiences that people have when they're brought into secret programs and they first come into contact with an extraterrestrial being?

Is there a sort of subset of predictable reactions that they take when they're actually brought into that for the first time?

Corey: Some of the people, they will just drop them into the situation with non-terrestrials, but they usually acclimate them first. You're told, “Yes, it exists.” You're shown a picture. You see video. You read more information about them.

And then you'll see one far away, and then you'll see one closer. You know, they acclimate you to the situation if they want you to be an asset.

If you go through this process, you're going to be laying on the floor sucking your thumb for a little while, and you're no use to them.

David: If they just throw you in?

Corey: Right.

David: Are there people that have had psychotic breaks if they get thrown right in?

Corey: Absolutely, yes. That's a fairly common thing to happen when people especially meet some of these very upsetting-looking non-terrestrials.

David: Are there unfamiliar smells that they experience when they meet those beings?

Corey: Very strong ones, yes. Yes, especially the reptilians. Ah, they're horrible! They're horrible. They smell like this musky urine smell, and it is just horrible.

So, yeah, I mean, your eyes, your brain's going to have to deal with what you're seeing, what you're smelling, what you're hearing from them.

David: I remember Pete Peterson describing that there's sort of an involuntary vomiting reflex that you have to really fight not to have when you meet an unfamiliar looking, intelligent being.

Corey: Even if they're nicer, benevolent beings, for a while, until you get used to them, you've got this very sick feeling in the pit of your stomach. It's just . . . Something just doesn't . . . It just feels wrong. It doesn't feel right.

You know, they're not supposed to exist, and here you are working beside them. So it takes a while for you to get used to being in their presence.

David: So the other day, I was here, and I watched you taping “Open Minds” with Regina Meredith. But you said something really interesting I'd never heard you say before about the money system.

And you said any planet that has a money system is basically what?

Corey: A controlled planet.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: Yeah, it's going to be a prison planet. On these planets to where they've had freedom, they've gotten completely away from a Babylonian money magic, because it's only there for control. And if you don't need control, it's useless.

David: Wouldn't you say that a lot of people who might be on the more winning side of the money system would have very strong resistance to the idea that people they think of as lowly or lesser than themselves would now have equal power and equal opportunity as they do?

Corey: Well, I believe, before we get to that point, we're going to have some sort of an economic shift, that we're going to go to a new economic system first that's going to be controlled in the East, that we will have a time where we'll have a jubilee – there will be debt forgiveness.

People will get a certain amount of money depending on how much damage they had suffered from the control system that was set up.

So a lot of people now that enjoy sitting back, calling theirselves millionaires or billionaires, when that happens, they may find that 'poosht', all of that has been erased, and they may be on a more equal playing field with everyone else.

David: Wow! Are you saying . . . I think you're saying it, but I want to try to pin you down a little more that this jubilee is part of the plan?

Corey: Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. That's been a part of the negotiation from the very beginning, and we've been hearing about it for years.

You know, “Next month there's going to be a crash and a new system's going to be set up.” We've been hearing about it forever. That's been going through negotiations all this time.

David: How would they calculate what your level of damage is from the Cabal? I'm not sure I understand that.

Corey: Well, if you're in a country that has suffered more than other countries, you're going to get more of a boost to try to bring you up to an equal level.

David: Ah.

Corey: One of the things they are describing right now, as a part of this Partial Disclosure and change in the financial system, is to also level the playing field in the monetary system to where every country's money system is going to be valued the same.

That's still in negotiations because a lot of them want it to be based on some sort of a GDP-type situation.

David: Right. So this financial system change . . . Now I've heard about what's called SDR, or Special Drawing Rights, and the idea that currencies get thrown into a “basket”, quote, unquote. And the basket represents, like you said, the level of assets that a given country has, and then that weighs in its percentage of how much equity their currency has as part of this global system of trade.

Is that seeming to be the direction that this is going?

Corey: Yes, that's definitely in the negotiations. They basically have come up with an overall, “Okay, this is what we're agreeing to do.” And they're starting the process.

But all the fine details, they're still negotiating, you know, deciding exactly what information, when. And that will be negotiated all the way throughout the process, because if they give us a little bit of information and react in this way, they wanted us to react in another way, then they're going to change the way they're seeding the information to us.

The information is going to be delivered in a mind-control kind of a way. That's what they plan on, anyway.

David: And you believe that this is a widespread consensus that's now been reached amongst the Alliance.

Corey: Yes. A lot of them honestly believe that it would be irresponsible to do a Full Disclosure event because humanity just wouldn't be able to handle it. And that is the reason behind why some of these Alliance groups are agreeing with these syndicate groups.

They honestly believe that it would destroy society.

David: How much extraterrestrial involvement is there in this discussion? In other words, are these Alliance groups meeting with certain benevolent or negative ET factions and involving them in the discussion?

Corey: No. What's really happening is like these syndicate groups, they're meeting with non-terrestrial groups.

David: Okay.

Corey: And the Alliance, they're meeting with non-terrestrial groups. But when they come together to do their negotiations, they're all basically proxies of these non-terrestrial groups.

They're there with those groups' agendas in mind in the negotiations.

David: Hm. Now, you've mentioned the possibility of debt forgiveness, but then you've also said that they don't want to disclose any of the occult involvements of this Cabal.

So how would we get to a point that we are acknowledged that we've been screwed and we're given reparations?

Corey: Right now, the majority of humans on this planet are so mind-controlled that they don't even listen to conspiracy theory. So this is something that they see they could do in a feasible way.

David: I don't see how they could tell us that we've been screwed by the Cabal and give us reparation payments without the occult aspects also . . .

Corey: Well, some of the occult stuff will come out.

David: Oh, okay.

Corey: Some of it will, but not all of it. They're going to control what comes out. So it will be nice, bite-sized pieces for the masses.


David: When we're looking at the things that you said to us, I am consistently amazed at how many other insiders were telling me this stuff, totally off the record, before you ever came onto the scene.

What are some of the oppositional elements that are starting to come out against you now as a result of the work that we've done on this show? What is being attempted?

Corey: Well, I was informed that there is a campaign going on that is going to discredit as many SSP whistleblowers as possible so that they will have a better chance of success in doing this Partial Disclosure.

David: Why are they trying to knock down SSP whistleblowers right now?

Corey: What's about to occur is that there is going to be a revelation of a Secret Space Program, and they're going to say it's “THE” Secret Space Program.

And this is the one that's ran by the military-industrial complex. It's controlled by the NSA, DIA and the Air Force.

David: Now, let's say that we actually achieved Full Disclosure at some point. What does the world look like after Full Disclosure? Let's just start talking about that.

Corey: After we've dealt with all the consequences of Full Disclosure?

David: Well, yeah, I guess it's a complex discussion, then, because it's not just what happens after it's over. It's what happens as we start to get it.

Corey: Exactly. Yeah, if we get a Full Disclosure, as I've said before, it's going to affect the psychological and emotional state of everyone on the planet.

It's going to be a rough time, because everyone that has their personal belief systems, they're all going to be challenged immediately.

And then we're going to find out we were lied to, and we're going to wonder, “Are we being lied to now?”

We're going to have a whole process to go through.

David: Now, you yourself have said that you were told you would be shocked by some of the things that would come out, that they'd even surprise you in a Full Disclosure scenario.

Corey: Yeah. If it's going to be something that will surprise me after I've heard about all the slave trade and all these other dark programs, then that's not something I'm looking forward to hearing.

David: Let's just say that we are going to use Mica's people, who you've discussed in previous episodes, as a statement for how we are going to proceed through this.

I guess one question, first of all, is, what does it mean to defeat the Draco exactly? It seems that the MIC has the technology to do that now. We've talked about that. They can shoot down ships and so forth.

Corey: That's not enough.

David: What is really involved in it?

Corey: What you have to defeat is the control mechanism of the Draco or what is controlling the Draco, and that is the artificial intelligence. And when we're able to wipe out artificial intelligence and it can't back itself back up and reinfect people and other beings, then that's the only time that we're really going to be able to say that we have a chance to defeat the Draco.

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David: Well, I know that Mica's people seemed to have said there will be training given to certain individuals for the defeat of the Draco. So that doesn't seem to just involve doing an EMP strike on AI.

Corey: In conventional military terms, if you go in and knock out the technology, you still got to go in and physically take the infrastructure. So if we knock out . . . the AI is knocked out, we still have a group of beings that have been serving the AI.

And that's probably going to be a good time to hit them, because they're going to be confused once they've lost the group that they report to.

David: Do you think that these beings can live if the nanites in their bodies short circuit? Are they still biologically functional?

Corey: I believe that, yes, they are still viable –

David: Really?

Corey: - a separate biological entity, yeah.

David: Okay. So what is that going to look like? In terms of whatever Mica's people ended up doing, did you ever get anything specific from him about whether they took out the AI first and then went after the Draco, just like you said?

Corey: Yes. The AI was taken out by solar activity.

David: Really?

Corey: And then the military, which they had a military at that time, rose up and took out the Draco when they were in a confused state.

David: Hm. What could that world look like where we've had an EMP that takes off the AI influence? Are we now seeing Draco flying around in the sky? We know where they are? Are they now trying to overrun the Earth?

Are we seeing them instead of them always hiding like they were before? Is that part of what's going to happen?

Corey: Yes, they would be revealed and also exposed and on the run.

David: Wow! Now, Mica looks like a man of African descent based on the art that you commissioned, more or less . . .

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Corey: Sort of, yes.

David: . . . with some maybe Asian features also. Do they have more of a homogeneous look to them on their planet than we do here, because it seems like we have very sharp differences in racial phenotypes?

Corey: They have other races and looks as well . . .

David: Oh, they do?

Corey: . . . to their group. Yes. He mentioned that there was genetic diversity, and they had different species.

David: Different looks, different races.

Corey: Right. Yeah.

David: Interesting. So at this point, we're saying that there is a solar flash that knocks down AI, but you've also described before that the solar flash should have really remarkable effects on human consciousness.

Corey: Yes.

David: So how do those two things fit together? What is the effect on human consciousness that will start at the same time that we begin trying to extricate ourselves from the Draco problem?

Corey: Well, if we didn't have these energetic influences, just getting this Disclosure . . . and after the solar flash alone, would send our consciousness into overdrive, because our consciousness has been suppressed technologically by these negative groups for so long.

But pairing that with these energetic changes that are occurring, we're going to start becoming much . . . it will be much more difficult to pull the wool over our eyes to begin with.

And deception is how they've ruled us all this time. And if they can't deceive us anymore, we are empowered by the truth.

David: You also have said, when we've talked about this consciousness shift, that there is a very upsetting, jarring aspect to it – the sort of “if you throw up, you'll feel better” side of the story.

Let's go back to Mica's people now. Did Mica's people have that experience?

Corey: Yes, it was very rough.

David: Really?

Corey: It was. And they had these other guardians that came in to help them. They called them guardians, but some of them were beings from nearby planets that came in and helped them in the way that they want to help us.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. So they received assistance, but they were given a time to process the information before these beings came in and started working amongst them and helping them.

David: So I still am having a little trouble understanding. If the solar flash goes off and people are thrown into some sort of disconcerted state as they adapt to this new consciousness, what does that look like as a planet?

And what does that look like in terms of . . . if the AI has already been taken out when that happens and now everybody's disconcerted, everybody's having a dark night of the soul, how does that transition into defeating the Draco? I'm not sure I get that.

Corey: The way it was described to me, they are left in complete confusion, complete disarray. They don't have the natural pecking order to contact and find out what they're suppose to be doing because who they report to is going through the same thing they are.

David: So in a consciousness sense, this is almost like them being knocked back to caveman level.

Corey: Well, let's put it this way. If a solar event happened and there were no aliens here, we're so dependent on technology that just imagine the disarray we would be going through.

They're even more dependent on technology. They are controlled by technology. So it's going to be many times worse when that technology is removed.

David: Some people who are watching this show are going to be saying, “Hey, what about amnesty? What about clemency?”

Aren't some of these beings, if they've been totally stripped of everything they had, we find out that they really disliked what they were in and they don't want to be part of it, are we going to have amnesty for those beings or is there going to be like a rehab possibility for them, some sort of imprisonment where they can't do harm but they're able to rehabilitate?

Or is it more like a genocidal cleanout?

Corey: You know, how we handle things is going to put us, as a species and a planet, on one path or another. If we handle things, you know, scorched-Earth, kill everybody that was involved, then that . . . you can't get a positive out of a negative.

If we start off on the wrong foot, then we're probably going to end up on the wrong path. So I'm not an advocate . . .

David: I would strongly disagree, yeah . . .

Corey: I'm not an advocate of clemency at all, but at the same time, we're going to have to find some sort of middle ground. I mean, we're just going to have to.

And that's something we're going to have to do as a people together.

David: I couldn't agree more. I think it's a big, big mistake, in light of everything we know from The Law of One and how the Blue Avians appeared to be the embodiment of that source, it would be a huge mistake for us to act like everyone is equally guilty and everyone should just be murdered.

Corey: It'll be very difficult for us not to react that way, though. As a species, when this information comes out, people are going to be beyond angry.

David: That's very understandable. So the context for our discussion also includes that I just wrote this book, “The Ascension Mysteries”, which for people who are out there saying that you are the only guy saying this, I put an incredible amount of stuff together of other insiders that are all saying the same things that you've been saying.

There's a lot of unknowns about this solar event, and I go into a lot of detail about ancient teachings, which in some cases seem to imply – and this would include the Bible – that whatever this solar flash is, our bodies are changed into something more energetic.

It's a very discontinuous event in which maybe one part of the Earth goes through a cataclysm, but then people on this other layer of time or something do not experience it.

Corey: Well, the way it's been put to me several times is that this shift is a consciousness shift that occurs. And because we have a co-creative consciousness that interacts with matter, the matter, our bodies, will change in a progress afterwards or during.

David: Well, we have statements in the Bible, for example – and I'm going to go to other texts as well – but the Bible says, “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God”.

And the Kingdom of God, of course, turns out that it means outer space when you correct the translation of “Elohim” and the translation of “heaven”. Okay? So flesh and blood cannot inherit this new reality that we're going to change into.

You have the Zoroastrians, and they talk about phoscorite, this solar flash. And they say, the wicked are consumed in it as if they're burned in fire, but that the just go through some sort of transmutation.

In the Bible, book of Matthew, it says that people are burned as if . . . you know, that the negative are burned as if they were wheat or weeds tied up into bundles and burned in the barn.

So you say a consciousness shift. Based on those Bible quotes and some other things that I've just been alluding to, how far of a shift are you hearing that this is going to be?

Corey: There are going to be immediate changes, but it's going to be a gradual shift. Mica's people did not all of a sudden start levitating and flying around after this occurred. They had to go through a process, and it occurred just like evolution, but it happened extremely quickly.

David: Well, what I'm also interested in is The Law of One speaks extensively about that there is a separate and habitable fourth-density sphere of Earth that is activated on when this happens, and that we now live on that sphere, and that the third-density sphere becomes no longer habitable for human life.

So it does appear that we're hearing about a very major splitting in which one level of Earth is catastrophic but another level of Earth is activated and can now be lived on. And it's like a hologram of the previous one, but at a higher vibration.

Corey: It could be. I know that with Mica's people, things did not unfold as their ancient teachings had expected exactly, so we may be reading too much into it. It may not mean exactly what we think it does or what we want it to mean.

So there are a lot of unknowns, like you said, about this solar flash and exactly what is going to occur immediately.

His people, they're still flesh and blood. They've been gaining all of these abilities – able to telepathically connect with each other. Their life has extended a little bit, and they expect it to keep progressively extending.

They've gone through this process and are still going through this process, according to what Mica said.

David: Do they have telekinetic abilities starting to form?

Corey: No, no. They can't fly around or move objects with their minds yet, but they have the ability to communicate telepathically, and they have a much deeper understanding of the universe than they had before.

They see concepts from a totally different perspective now.

David: One of the things that we've heard about Ascension is this idea that the veil is dropped, and we now have awareness of our other lifetimes as well as the one that we're in.

I've had it explained to me from the beings themselves that it's as if you have an unbroken continuity in the astral plane in your spiritual form that goes from lifetime to lifetime, and that once you go through this, it's as if you re-access that greater part of yourself.

The limited human mind is now unlimited. You have access to this other part, and you remember being that person.

Corey: Mica stated that they became in closer communion with their higher selves, that right now, we have a hard time connecting with our higher selves, most of us.

David: Sure.

Corey: After this event, they had full access to their higher selves or what they would consider full access after what they had before. So . . .

David: Do you know what that looks like? What does that mean?

Corey: I think it means that there is a veil also between yourself and your higher self.

David: Sure.

Corey: When that is removed and you are able to commune with your higher self, then you're going to have access to all these past life memories and future life memories.

David: Did he ever explicitly tell you that they now have access to parallel lifetimes or other lifetimes?

Corey: No.

David: Okay. But you strongly assume that they do?

Corey: Yeah, I surmised that your higher self is going to have a recollection of who you were in the past. And if you have direct communion with your higher self, it stands to reason to me.

David: How quickly do angelic beings come on the scene, beings that are obviously non-physical, energetic beings that are of a significantly higher level?

Corey: Immediately after the flash occurred, they had guardians come in that were associated with the Sphere Being Alliance, . . .

David: Really?

Corey: . . . that didn't physically interact with them as much as they were there to make sure everything stayed status quo in their star system, to make sure that no other beings came in and took advantage of them going through this process and taking advantage of them in any way.

David: When we have talked about the Super Federation before, you mentioned that as these solar flashes happen, there is sort of an interstellar rescue operation that takes place from these Super Federation groups that are doing their genetic, long-term projects.

Is that part of what you're describing now or is that something different?

Corey: He did not describe anything like that. What he described was these two guardian races basically coming in and I guess being like police that don't interfere.

These groups wanted Mica's people to solve their own problems and fix things on their planet just like they want us to.

David: So what did the tyranny of the Draco look like for them on their planet?

Corey: They were controlled by sort of like a new world order. They didn't have different countries that might war with each other. Everything was controlled by one government on their planet already at that point.

David: And it was similar to what we have here where the government is people like them, but they're controlled by the Draco, . . .

Corey: Yes.

David: . . . which is in turn controlled by AI?

Corey: Yes. And he said, towards the end, it became more overt that the Draco were controlling everything. But I guess it's kind of like people waking up here. We're becoming more awake. That's what occurred on his planet as well.

David: So once we see this flash occur, you're saying that positive beings of some kind come in and make sure that nobody can mess with the process.

Corey: Right.

David: What does that actually look like for the people? How do they trust what's going on? How do they know what this is?

Corey: For the most part, they don't know that there's a guardian race that's come in to oversee their process.

David: Oh.

Corey: Yeah, they're oblivious to it. There will be people in their society that will know about it, kind of like Mica knew what was going on. But for the most part, they don't know.

They're focused on their planet, on their healing and making it through this process.

David: Did Mica's solar system also have these sphere assets come in to help transition it?

Corey: Uh huh. They went through the exact same thing that we're going through.

David: To what degree do they have access to technology compared to where we are now? How much has that changed for them?

Corey: That changed almost overnight. Because like what's expected to occur here, all of the technology they had was basically made inoperable during these solar pulses that occurred.

And they had to start over again. And when they started over again, their technology started becoming more of a consciousness-based technology – much more advanced.

David: Hm. And you're saying that's also expected to happen here?

Corey: Yes. Yes, once all of this technology that we think is modern is removed – we have these different Secret Space Programs that have built out an infrastructure that . . . What's going to happen to this infrastructure during this solar pulse?

So we're going to go from using electronics only to using different types of technology that is consciousness-based. And KaAree's people are doing that with . . . they use crystals and different types of stones that somehow they're able to interface with, and with their consciousness affect change on another object or being.

David: There was a whistleblower associated with the original Disclosure Project where he was tasked with remote viewing, and the job of his group was to create a communications system that was telepathic because there was an anticipation of a great solar event that would make electrical equipment inoperable.

So my point being that we've had other insiders come forward who are also anticipating here that this is going to happen.

Corey: If you noticed, President Obama signed a very interesting executive order.

David: Yeah.

Corey: In this executive order, Obama stated that all of these federal agencies needed to prepare for solar flares or geomagnetic disturbance that would bring down not only the electrical infrastructure, but would affect technology long-term.

So they're building EMP devices to test it in probably a city near you at some point.

David: And most people who watch this show are probably savvy enough to know that there was this thing in the 1800s called the Carrington Event. At the time, we only had telegraph lines, and it melted everything, just from a solar flare.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So this is a very serious concern. What do we do without technology? I mean, do these beings that show up help us once we lose all our toys so that we don't just become totally bereft of the basic necessities for life?

Corey: If we put out a calling, then we'll have beings help us. But during this time period, they fully expect us to be untrusting of other beings coming in bearing gifts after we had just broken the control system of another non-terrestrial group.

David: Did that kind of thing happen with Mica's people as well?

Corey: Uh-huh. Yes.

David: So they went through a period in which much of their entire technological infrastructure was stripped from them?

Corey: Yes. And then everyone was in a bad psychological state. They had to overcome the technical issues and the psychological issues. That's saying a lot. That's a lot to overcome.

And they were able to overcome it and flourish.

David: What are the most likely time windows of when we would expect this solar flash to happen here, because it obviously is going to happen?

Corey: Yes, it's going to happen. When I was in the programs, they had a window of between 2018 and 2023. And most recently, I heard that they had stretched it to 2024.

David: Meaning that that's not when it's going to happen, . . .

Corey: The window.

David: . . . but that's the last of when it could happen.

Corey: That's the window they expect it.

David: 2018 to 2024.

Corey: Right.

David: It does appear, from what you're saying, that this would create some losses of life, especially perhaps in countries that are really, really dependent on the immediate usefulness of their technology to provide basic goods and services.

Corey: Well, think about all the different health technologies that are used to keep people alive. When that technology is gone, yeah, I expect that there's going to be loss of life.

And these new technologies aren't just going to appear. It's not going to be like, “Oh, we lost all of our technology. Oh, here's a zero-point energy device.”

That's going to take a while to roll out as well. And that is something that Mica did talk about was that the new technology . . . there was a period of time where they were developing this new technology from . . . they had kind of secret programs as well . . . that there was a lot of physics that their general population didn't know about, just like we don't know about.

David: Did Mica's planet have something akin to a military-industrial complex with a space program?

Corey: Yes.

David: That was secret?

Corey: Yes. They were very militaristic. And within a generation, they were able to get rid of their military altogether.

David: Did the Draco also weaponize that military and try to use it for interstellar combat?

Corey: Yes.

David: Interesting.

Corey: It was mentioned that there was a karmic tie-in. Right now, we have people, human beings, flying alongside the Draco in other star systems or in between star systems, causing problems.

We're going to have to pay for that in some way.

David: Well, I wouldn't necessarily think that people who have never contributed to that would be equally karmically liable as the people who did participate in it.

Corey: No, but as a society, the whole society is receiving the karmic backlash at the same time.

David: Right.

Corey: It's going to affect everyone.

David: Mica's people obviously went through a pretty difficult transition based on how you're describing it. What is the feeling you get when you meet one of them now?

What do they look like? What's their energy?

Corey: Completely beaming with love, and the vibration is completely different than ours. And also, their mind . . . They don't have 10% of their processor dealing with all of this negative stuff, or more of their processor.

Their processor is fully focused on continuing this transition. They are able to focus like this now after these AI and other control mechanisms were removed from their planet.

David: And yet, despite them having this sort of benevolent, beatific, meditative consciousness, you say that they actually like us.

Corey: Oh, yes. They're very excited and look very forward to interacting with us and helping us make this transition.

They do want us to not be fearful of the transition, but they would like us to understand that it's not going to be what many of us think it is going to be – just a flash of light, angels everywhere, and then it's over.

David: And then we suddenly act like Jesus and have all his abilities.

Corey: Right. It's going to be a process.

David: Interesting. All right. Well, this is some of the stuff that I love to hear the most. I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and we'll see you next time.

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