Season 7, Episode 31
Pete Peterson: Thank you. Thank you.
David: We had been talking about crashes in Antarctica, and you had mentioned that, at the deepest level, there's one that landed on what's like a continental surface with tropical type of plants. And then you said that you had a lot more experience with a second crash.
Now one of the things that I find really fascinating in what you've been telling us, is that there was a set of controls for beings that had three long fingers. So there's a lot of really interesting connections being made here.
And we were also talking about the mathematics of base three and the idea that, perhaps, we were given five fingers to confuse us away from this ideal math.
What would be the practical application of this base three mathematics that you say your friend has discovered?
If we start using that, what are some of the technological breakthroughs that we might have, or scientific breakthroughs that we might have?
Pete: What would be the proximate result, in the very beginning, probably half the mathematicians in the world would violently protest against it. And the other half would see it immediately.
It can easily be seen because he's broken it down into a series of charts, of charting numbers, and with different colors for the different digits and the different, say, points.
And then we'd try to say, 'Well, here are all the things that this makes possible'.
We can't even begin to imagine maybe 1% of the things that it'll make possible. It's so totally changes our representational viewpoint of the universe. Mathematics is a language.
Pete: It's a way that we can talk about numerical things. And it's THE language of science. It's how we talk about almost all the things we do in science, even biological things and so forth.
Every form of engineering we have will change. Things that we couldn't ever do will become instantaneously doable by children.
David: Are there any other examples, that you know of, of beings with three fingers? You mentioned that this craft had sockets for three fingers.
Pete: Almost all the ancient beings have three fingers.
Pete: The ones that we have samples of.
Pete: I don't know, except very recently, of any alien craft that we recovered that didn't have three-finger control.
David: That didn't have?
Pete: Didn't have.
Pete: We don't have joysticks. The movement of the hand, wrist and hand, and fingers . . . and like I said, almost all the aliens have very, very similar apparatus. It's just that most of them have three fingers because it's much more . . . it's more than enough, or it's exactly enough.
And it's easier to deal with. It's easier to compute in your head for three fingers.
David: Some of the people watching this are going to say that intelligent life could not develop with three fingers because conventional anthropology believes that once we got the opposable thumb and could grasp and hold, that's once we were able to do toolmaking and develop intelligence.
Pete: They're absolutely correct, except you have two opposable fingers instead of just one – twice as much you can accomplish.
David: Really? So each of the fingers on the sides acts like a thumb.
Pete: Like a thumb.
Pete: And in many of them, they go in like a thumb. I mean, they go in from the side. They're not three fingers like that. [Pete holds up three middle fingers.]
Pete: It's three fingers like that. [Pete holds up his thumb and index finger on one hand and positions the thumb of his other hand next to the index finger.]
David: Hm. Interesting. Could you tell us a little bit more about what was found in that second level, that second layer in Antarctica?
Pete: The control of exterior surfaces as if they were living surfaces and you were giving them commands . . .
Pete: . . . to change the aerodynamics.
David: How could you give them commands?
Pete: Mentally. But you can also . . . In the beginning, it was with these control systems. The newer ones are done mostly mentally.
David: Wow! Are there any of these three-fingered beings still around today?
Pete: Most of them.
David: Most of them? Okay.
David: Visiting us?
Pete: Ha! We're kind of the least people on Earth . . . in the universe that they would visit. What do we have to offer?
Well, I'll tell you what we have to offer. Why are they interested in us?
We have Ormus, which is another type of gold, which allows you to live for many, many years. [It] extends the life of the flexibility of the regeneration of the nervous system and the telomeres.
It's what Solomon's Mines were all about – Solomon with his many, many gold mines. He didn't mine yellow gold. He mined white gold.
Pete: And he sold it for very high prices to all the leaders of the world.
David: So you're saying there's something about the Earth that makes Ormus in greater amounts than might be available on other planets?
Pete: No. There's something here that we have a greater concentration of gold.
Pete: Most of the space exploration was for finding Ormus or manna, another word for a very similar type of thing, but it uses Ormus, and the principles by which Ormus functions.
David: So when we go back to the cuneiform tablets, the Sumerian texts, most of the conventional scholarship on that now is in agreement that these Anunnaki were some type of extraterrestrials and that they specifically were coming to Earth to steal our gold.
Do you have any comments on that?
Pete: We, as a race, exist only because we were designed to be gold miners. That's why we exist.
We were a genetically-manipulated cross-breed of the Anunnaki and . . . I'll give you an example, which is easy to tell.
I think we have about 92% of the same DNA as the chimpanzee.
David: Chimpanzee DNA is 98.8% similar to human DNA.
Pete: Yep. And very early people were not fair of look and bred by the Anunnaki. Ha, ha. They bred a lot more into us.
And that's why a lot of the aliens . . . I mean, you know, we're bipedal. We have hands, We have fingers. We have two ears, two eyes, two nostrils, one mouth.
And we look at a good part of the aliens and they're exactly the same.
David: Right. So, just to be clear, are you saying that the Anunnaki bred us out of something like a chimpanzee and then mixed their own DNA with it?
Pete: We were somehow bred into what had the DNA . . . similar, obviously very similar, to chimpanzee. It gave us the ability to squat down, get in small . . . Gold usually appears in very small cracks.
You follow the crack up through the Earth. It came up with water and then set up.
And remember that a lot of gold is found in quartz. Most gold is found in a quartz deposit.
Pete: Quartz is piezoelectric. If you squeeze it, it produces electricity.
Pete: The electricity would do the conversion process. The movement of the Earth would make the electricity that did the conversion process. That's why we find yellow gold there.
David: Do you think there is a relationship between the Anunnaki that we're talking about just now and the crashes that you personally saw in Antarctica?
Pete: Well, I think there is because the Anunnaki were the ones who . . . Imagine a mining claim. Well, the Anunnaki were the first people to find that there was a lot of gold on Earth.
Pete: So they had a certain claim and were given a certain task by their task masters, who are, very probably, Draconian.
David: Are these three-fingered people still on Earth with us today?
Pete: When I was reverse engineering the controls, I had three-fingered people helping me.
David: Really? What would they look like in terms of their head and face?
Pete: Well, there's a difference in the eye structure because of the inner eye fold between Orientals and Anglos. So you have that kind of difference. It's different.
Lesser nose and different nostrils.
Their mouths are round, kind of like an octopus sucker. I mean, they're more round than ours.
Their food is produced by them eating food and excreting an excretion that comes off their skin. And they scrape it off and eat it.
David: Hm. Is there anything about the head that we should know about?
Pete: Well, it's different, but it's very much the same.
David: What's the color of the skin of these beings that you personally interacted with?
Pete: Well, they are differing colors. I've seen them look almost like aluminum. And I'm not sure but what they might not be, you know, might be aluminum. They might be clones, because they tend to clone these people.
And they are clones, by the way. This is why their whole feeding system works differently than ours does.
Pete: They're actually like robots, but they're more biological than non-biological.
Pete: I have kind of clandestinely measured the electric fields to kind of get some information, and I can't find any different . . . much different than the human electric field.
David: Are there any known places on Earth where these people or creatures might have been?
Pete: Yep. Arctica, Antarctica, Alaska, Canada. Most people don't know, but the Yukon and the Northwest Territory are not part of Canada. They're owned by the . . . whoever the sovereign of England is. They're directly . . . They're privately owned.
But that's where most of the gold is found. Surprise, surprise.
David: Ha, ha.
Pete: Ha, ha.
David: Are they working on the surface or underground?
Pete: No, most of them work underground. And the reason was, because when they came here, we were in the same part of the 29,000 year solar cycle that we're in now. And the Sun's emitting X-rays like it was an X-ray machine.
Pete: So they were evidently sensitive to those and are working underground.
David: Hm. About how many of these people do you think are on Earth right now, or in Earth, if you had to estimate?
Pete: I couldn't even begin to estimate, but I believe I know of some of the places, and of those that I know of, I'd say probably 350,000.
Pete: I think there's probably that many in Antarctica. Just a guess.
David: Are these people using a language to communicate or do they speak more telepathically?
Pete: Well, most of them are more telepathic if they're older, but the younger ones and/or the cloned ones, they can . . . I've watched one of them learn to speak English with an accent that talks about “eatin' grits for breakfast”, in three to four days from arrival from wherever they come from.
David: Wow! Are there any of these beings in South America?
Pete: South America is one of the first places they were. All the Indians down there have, if you look at their outfits, they all have things like kachinas. They all have serpents. Serpents are big, which would be the Dracos, or parts of the Dracos.
Some of the Dracos are the nicest people you'd ever want to meet – ethical, moral, as we would judge, etc., etc. And some are pretty nasty.
David: You had said that you feel that the Draconians were in some way controlling or working with the Anunnaki, so could you define what you mean by Draconians so that we know we're on the same page here? And then explain the relationship between Draconians and Anunnaki that are more human looking.
Pete: Well, they're different. Some of them look almost human, but if you want to know what Draconians look like, go back to any ancient society and look at their dragon people.
They seem to be the older civilization that we know of, at all. They came from . . . Very few Draconians, naturally, were in the Milky Way.
The Milky Way is kind of a holding facility for people who are going to be growing the things that are required to keep the DNA of ancient societies working.
David: That's a very provocative statement.
Pete: That was our primary purpose, as best I can tell.
David: For the whole Milky Way?
Pete: The whole Milky Way.
David: It's sort of like a big genetic farm.
Pete: But a farm for other things, too – a farm for gold, which is required for Ormus, which is required to keep the telomeres working and keep the neural system flexible and the brain multiplying and getting greater and so forth.
It was responsible for all the ancients that we know of in our own history who lived to be 200, 300 – you know, Methuselah.
David: So could you explain for us if anybody got into the second ship? Did you ever get to see the interior or hear about what was inside?
Pete: I got a quick walk-through.
David: Really? Wow!
Pete: The reason was, I have done a lot of interesting work on alien control systems. It's one of my small areas of expertise or large areas of expertise.
Pete: So I look at the control systems, and, you know, I can figure them out. I can say, “Oh, I know what that's for. I know what that's for.” I've had enough experience with it. I just know.
David: All right. Let me ask you some questions that might seem basic, but it will help us.
First of all, how high was the ceiling once you got inside?
Pete: I'd say it was probably, in areas, maybe three feet, three and a half, and in other areas, it was probably as much as six and a half or seven feet.
David: So it's kind of a crouchy situation.
Pete: Well, it's . . . Remember, it's saucer-shaped. It's going to taper down at the edges and get higher in the middle.
David: So what did it look like inside? What did you see?
Pete: Well, I saw a central core. That's normal on saucers because of how the ones I know of work that way. They work with a huge shaft. You could call it like a flywheel down below the deck and then an upper deck.
And then you find a lot of them have like a – I don't know what you'd say – maybe a control tower. They have . . . If they have windows that are up on a top, an upper thing, where you'd stand up and look out the windows.
Pete: The piloting is not done with a window, it's done with a . . . like we do it today. It's done from a computer screen, a screen. I'm not saying a computer screen. They have very organic kind of things, like they can make it look just like you're looking right out . . . like you were sitting right out in the open in front of it.
David: What were the surfaces predominantly like? Were they metallic, or did they have a color?
Pete: I would say they were some form of coated plastic or coated metal. There was a coating.
David: What was the most surprising thing about it to you?
Pete: From the ones I'd seen, there was a lot of technological changes, which is to be expected. I mean, look at our aircraft.
Each generation . . . The ones we have flying now were started 20 years ago in design.
David: Right. You said that these craft were piloted by beings with three fingers and that they've appeared all over the Earth.
David: Does it appear that that population came from this ship originally, that that was their original . . .?
Pete: Oh, no, no. Not at all.
Pete: Not at all.
Pete: No, I know of probably five or six races that all have three fingers. I would say, probably most of the aliens have three.
David: Hm! You had told me before about something with a craft in Antarctica where there were panels that gave off their own light.
David: Could you talk about that for me?
Pete: Yeah, those are on the last two ships.
Pete: It's a material much like phosphorus, or phosphorus. You know, we have these little things that you can pin on your ceiling that look like stars and moons and galaxies . . . kids trying to . . .
David: Right. Glow in the dark.
Pete: – glows in the dark – and shine lights on them. They glow for a little bit and then they die out rather rapidly.
There's a material that's being made in Australia right now that you put it out and give it about 30~45 minutes of sunlight exposure, and it'll give off enough light to see and, at least for a day, to read by before it runs down.
Well, the alien lights are absolutely much the same, except they light them up with ultraviolet or infrared LEDs, some type of photo . . . what we would call alien LEDs.
David: So you're saying that the interior of one of these ships had a material that they would light with some kind of LEDs, and then once they did, it would glow for a while on its own.
Pete: Well, it would . . . What they would do is . . . The lights flicker at, say, 1,000 times a second . . .
Pete: . . . but they may only turn on every 10 cycles, or 20, or 50 cycles, depending on the outside light and the ambient light, and where they are in that programming pattern of the lights.
It looks like the whole ceiling in the control rooms, which is where I mostly have seen, all the ceilings made of . . . They're coated with this material. You can paint it on.
David: So let's talk about the third crash. You said that there were three layers of crashes there. What was the third uppermost layer?
Pete: Well, these are the ones I know about. There's three that I know about.
Pete: That was quite recent. It was exposed to the outside. It was picked up by satellite photographs. It was a disk. It was at an angle, about maybe a 15° or 20° angle.
Pete: And it obviously had gotten caught up with the control navigation systems, which we're using, . . . the electromagnetic . . . there's an electromagnetic field, and it got . . . where it got too close to where it goes straight into the ground and, I guess, it slid off.
I mean, there are quite a few electromagnetic things on the craft to help it stabilize, and it picks up the field and then reacts with the electromagnetic field.
David: What was the size of the ship like compared to the other two that were there?
Pete: It was an intermediate size. It wasn't that large, I'd say, maybe, 350 feet, 400 feet in diameter.
David: Hm. And what was the technology like compared to anything else you're aware of?
Pete: Upgraded, considerably upgraded.
David: Is there anything unusual about the third crash?
Pete: Well, the third craft had a lot of living people.
Pete: I don't know that they lasted very long because I know some of them didn't. I know some of them were shot. I know some of them were used for experiments.
David: You mean we found living people inside it?
Pete: They'd been living there for years.
Pete: I mean, they were growing their own food. They were synthesizing their own food.
David: What were the people . . . What did they look like for this? You said they'd colonized basically once they got there.
Pete: I think this group had people that had been here for a long time that came from somewhere else onto this craft. Some looked like Dracos. Some looked like both the metallic and the non-metallic people with the large eyes.
David: Uh-huh. You're starting to describe what sounds like different types of ETs, but you're saying there's one craft. So could you please specify?
Pete: The one craft was used as a lifeboat.
David: Okay. And there were different types of beings inside?
Pete: There were 15 different species of beings there.
Pete: These are the ones I know the best.
David: Okay. And they were all inside this craft?
Pete: Well, they were inside of various compartments in the craft – different compartments, different atmosphere, different gravities.
And it looked like that some of them had been there for a long, long, long time.
David: When did the U.S. government find this craft?
Pete: I think they probably found it, maybe, about 1941 or 1942.
David: Really? Like World War II?
Pete: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Before the end of World War II.
David: You said that some of these people were killed when we first got there?
Pete: My understanding is that some of them were shot by guards. Some of them decided they didn't want to be restricted to this craft.
There were some of them that breathed our atmosphere fine. They went out for a walk, and then they got shot, because they didn't know the protocol, because they'd never been out there. The guards lied. You know, they were just typical human beings.
David: So the Germans seem to have gotten to Antarctica pretty early, maybe as early as 1938~1939.
Pete: Oh, they had huge [number of] people there.
David: Do you think that the Germans might have found this craft first since you say it's kind of on the surface?
Pete: I'm certain they found it first. I mean, I don't know that for a fact, but I can't imagine how they'd miss it.
Pete: And, of course, they were way into that, and they were in communication with four or five or six different groups of aliens at the time.
David: So did the Germans do the shooting, or did the Americans do the shooting?
Pete: I have no idea. I would certainly think it was the Germans.
David: This craft . . . It sounds like they might have also gotten down to the other craft if you're saying they landed in the same proximate area. Were they trying to get to those other older craft?
Pete: Yes, the last one was trying to rescue anybody that was still there.
Pete: And the people in the older craft were in a stasis-type of situation, but it had long since run out of power.
David: Hm. Were the people in the newer craft able to actually use any of the resources or activate any of the power systems?
Pete: They used a lot of the resources.
David: Of the older craft?
Pete: Of one of them, not the bottom one.
David: The middle one?
Pete: The middle one.
David: Okay. So you're saying then that they had created some kind of colony where they're in their original ship. They're also able to access the second ship. And that they had lived there for quite some time as colonists, if you will.
Pete: Some of them had, yes, the ones that lived on.
David: Did they have any ability to travel around the Earth? Did they have any craft they could fly in?
Pete: I don't think that they . . . If they did, they didn't really use them because they didn't want to be discovered. And I don't know that they did. I don't know that they had anything that was running.
David: But these different groups of people – you said there was 15 different types – they'd all learned to get along with each other?
Pete: About as well as 15 different groups from this planet would get along with each other.
David: Well, you had mentioned that some of them look kind of like what we would call Greys.
David: Others maybe look more human. How divergent were these 15 different types?
Pete: Well, you had the ones that were from insects.
Pete: You had ones that were from underwater or under liquid beings. You had some that were Dracos. There are good and bad Dracos in a one-thirds, two-thirds kind of thing.
David: One-third good, two-thirds bad?
Pete: Yeah, of those that we know of.
David: Okay. So how would you have a predatory species like the Draco able to co-exist with other types of extraterrestrials? That seems hard to understand.
Pete: They don't.
Pete: I said there are good and bad Dracos.
Pete: A good Draco's not a problem, in fact, even less than not a problem. They're like the priests and the ministers and try to do good and so forth.
Pete: Most of them are that way. There are a few of them that are a little snotty.
David: Well, then I would assume that the Dracos that were in this craft were the good ones?
Pete: Absolutely. The rest of them, they got rid of immediately.
David: Ha, ha. Okay.
Pete: Ha, ha. They don't get along well.
David: Did they allow any of us to go in there and work with them or live with them?
Pete: Well, yeah. A good part of the main staff and crew are humans.
Pete: I mean, we are producing, helping them get raw materials and learning from them. It's a tit for tat.
You know, we're learning a lot of technology. We have technology right now that I would say is a good 300 years in advance of anything that anybody that lives above the ground knows about.
Pete: Remember, we have lots and lots and lots of people living below the ground.
David: Are there any other significant things that have happened in Antarctica that you know about?
Pete: Well, I have a conjecture that the reason we went there is because we knew about what was going on with the Germans.
On the other hand, the ostensible reason we went there is to see what all we could do in the field of early, early, early field of semi-conductors, biological research. What could you do in this particular – and they called it like atmosphere. In other words, how much electromagnetic waves, how much gravitic waves, how much magnetic structure there was.
The magnetic fields were oriented 90° different than they are on most of the rest of the Earth.
Pete: And each one of those things we found, had very, very great import for synthesizing metal structures, for synthesizing chemical structures – fluids, both fluids and solids – for working with metals, for doing research work on magnetism, and finding out new things about survival in that particular part of the world because we knew that probably two-thirds of the world's leftover – left from our mining and so forth; those metals and those compounds and those rare Earth and stuff – all exist on these two continents.
David: All right. Well, that's all the time we have for in this episode with Pete Peterson. And Pete, I want to thank you for being on this program.
Pete: Well, I appreciate that.