Season 6, Episode 4
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. I'm here with Corey Goode. And in this episode, you are going to get some of the most shocking, amazing confirmation of the reality of things that Corey has been telling us on this program for over a year now.
We have, for you to see, filmed discussions with William Tompkins, the aerospace engineer, who confirms some of the most incredible aspects, and the most unbelievable aspects, of what Corey has had to say.
And he gets very specific. The level of specificity in what you're about to see is so extreme that the idea of this being a coincidence does not make any sense.
Tompkins does not have Internet access. He does not have an email address. He was completely unaware of who Corey Goode was at the time that this was taped. And when we showed him a photograph of a Draco, he said, “What the hell are you guys doing here?”
He was shocked. And this is information that he came in to on his own. So without further ado, check it out.
20 AND BACK
William Tompkins: Thousands, thousands, not just a few, thousands of people have joined the Navy here in the United States. They joined the Space Navy. They signed up for a 20-year tour.
So these folks, men and women, were given a lot of examinations and a lot of information on what they were going to need.
Many of them went to the Moon, our Moon, and facilities there and got checked out and organized and established where is the best place they're going to go, what their criteria is going to be, what major area they're going to develop, like what class in the university.
And then they get sent to a Mars facility for a short time.
And some of them get to Jupiter's moons, where we have a large facility on the moon.
And then they get assigned to a specific base. And they work for a short time in the base before they're assigned a naval cruiser, or a naval attack vehicle, or even a naval spacecraft carrier, which are one, two, and four kilometer long class.
And we have eight of those battle groups out there. So there's plenty of room for new people to come aboard.
And so they do their tour then, most of it on the spacecraft carriers, or the supporting ships. And some of them are supply ships – not as much fun, but they needed to be . . . We need people on them, too.
So at the end of the 20 years, they have an option for another 20 years. They could go for another 20 years. Or they have the option to come back to Earth where they were born and where they entered the Navy.
And then they make this decision they want to come back. So they age regress. They're now 20 years older than when they joined the Space Navy, okay? And so they take several weeks or several months, and they reverse their age back to 21 when they joined the Navy.
They finished their Navy 20-year tour and they make the selection to go back to the United States.
Now remember, during that 20 years, they had no contact with their family or with anybody back on Earth. That's a prerequisite. Okay? So . . . But they remember their family. They remember their friends and the people they used to go to and some of the girlfriends they used to have.
And so they come back, but they were 20 years older when they left the planet. So the girlfriends are going to be a whole lot older.
And so the Navy has allowed them, in the Solar Warden System Program, to go back to the age that they were when they signed up. Okay?
Well, you said that they were 20 years old when they signed up, and they went a 20-year Navy tour. They came back. And now they're 20 years old, and they are in a situation where life is this 20-year-old life that they had going when they left.
And now, during that several weeks returning, their minds, not painfully, but their minds are played with to where 90.99 [percent] of their memory for the last 20 years out in space is removed.
So they're sitting there now, the girlfriend is the same age as she was. Wait a minute. She wasn't 20 years older, like we said. She's still the same age.
If he was married, his wife, the kids, were the same age. They didn't spend 20 years more life. So he comes . . . That's kind of a cool system. Okay?
Yes, that system is operating and has been operating since 1980.
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David: All right. So as you've just seen there, what the heck is going on here? The only way somebody is going to be able to debunk something like this is to try to say that Tompkins and Corey were speaking to each other, but we know that that never happened.
So Corey, welcome back to the program.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
David: How did you feel when you saw this? Let's just start simple. Ha, ha, ha.
Corey: Well, I was always under the impression that under a certain level people did not know this information. So it's very . . . It's exciting and a little shocking, but the details that he gave were right on.
David: Well, he started out by saying that thousands of people are recruited into some kind of a Space Navy. How do you feel about that number? Do you think he's right when he says thousands?
Corey: It's definitely in the thousands.
David: Thousands per year or thousands overall?
Corey: Over . . . I mean, it's definitely going to be in the thousands, several thousand that's going to be . . . that have been in the program – 20 and Back Program – overall.
Corey: So it's a fairly large number.
David: Now, one of the other things that he said that's a little bit different than what you've said was first of all, he said people get trained in the various areas of specialty that they want to go to. And then he said that they go to Mars. Whereas you seem to have said that the LOC [Lunar Operations Command] is the first kind of stopover point.
Corey: It usually is, yes.
David: What do you think could be going on with Mars where it would become a contact point for people that are joining the Space Navy?
Corey: Well, depending on what your duty is going to be, you're going to be taken and trained at a different facility. Let's say that they had deep space telemetry – just pulling off the top of my head – if a person was going to do that, then just like if you were serving in the Navy here on Earth, they're going to send you to different bases where you're going to get the best training before you rejoin the vessel you're assigned to.
David: Is there any one sort of main reception area on Mars, similar to what there would be with LOC?
Corey: Not that I know of.
Corey: Right. But it's a little bit different for people that go in as career Navy. They go through a little bit different process than civilian assets that are pulled in, such as the MILAB people, and there are others that are pulled in, too, - scientists.
David: When I was speaking with Henry Deacon, he was the first insider I had access to who said that he had worked on a facility on Mars. And he had told me that there were 200,000 personnel at the time he was there, that it was rapidly expanding.
And the funny part to me was when he said that only 10,000 of those personnel were actually Earth-born humans. I'm wondering if that correlates with anything you've heard. I mean, we can't get him on camera like we did with Tompkins. He doesn't want to talk, but . . .
Corey: Yes. Yeah. The population from like . . . They brought a lot of people in during the Brain Drain era, and then those people . . . you know, there's been two or three generations at least of people that have been assigned to these . . . or have been living on these bases.
David: So could Deacon be right that there could be a base with 200,000 personnel in one spot?
Corey: Oh, absolutely. Yes.
David: So they're that large?
Corey: Yes. Some . . . Yes, some of them are very large.
David: Okay. Another thing that Tompkins said, which I found provocative, was that he said there were eight battle groups. When you start hearing specific numbers like that, he's either going to be right or he's wrong. And he seemed very confident when he said that.
So I'm curious as to your reactions to that.
Corey: Yes. There were eight different battle groups.
David: There were?
Corey: Yes. And that was during the Solar Warden era. These craft are still . . . Most of them are still in service, but you have different fleets with carriers, destroyers, supply ships, all kinds of support craft.
And during the time I was in, there were eight different battle groups.
David: How could you classify them? Why would there be eight? What were they doing? Where were they going? Were they different?
Corey: They were made up of the same range of vessels.
Corey: You know, like you have several different types of destroyers and carriers in the Navy that most people are aware of, and you'll have several battle groups or actual fleets out there going off doing different missions. And it's very much the same. They're off doing different missions and aren't really in each other's business that much unless they're called to support each other.
David: So it's not like we would have three of the eight battle groups hanging out in our solar system, necessarily?
Corey: It just depends. A lot of time they'll be behind the Moon or further out in the solar system, closer to other bases, in an area where they're going to be behind a planet, not just hanging out, because they have to do that because you have astronomers here that are tasking satellites to look around.
And they always make sure they know where every asset is in space. And they know where astronomers are going to be looking. So they're able to hide the fleet.
David: Can you remember the names of any of these battle groups or what were their designations?
Corey: I can't. I remember that they had a . . . There was a 01, 02, 03, but I did not . . . We really didn't interact with the other fleets. And I didn't really interact with other vessels in our fleet.
David: Approximately, how many vessels are in a battle group altogether? Does it vary, or is it . . .
Corey: Yeah, it's going to vary. But sometimes they'll take some out of one group and assign it to another group depending on the mission.
But there's well over a dozen in each. And we're talking larger vessels. And then they have many, many more support vessels.
David: Did any of these battle groups ever get into a war that was significant enough that they lost a major amount of their assets?
Corey: There have been conflicts. They've had vessels that have been damaged so badly that they've lost them. And they've had vessels, also, that they've had to send to be repaired for extended periods of time.
David: Is there any conflict that kind of gained a legendary or historic significance? Was there ever a conflict with the group that they really were not prepared to handle? Something like that?
Corey: In the beginning, there were several incidents of them going into areas around Jupiter or Saturn that were off limits, and having their rears handed to them.
David: 'Rears handed to them' translates as what?
Corey: Well, they would be attacked by sophisticated weaponry from non-terrestrials.
Corey: There were certain areas around certain planets and planetoids that are off limits, and if they accidentally, or purposely, go into those areas, they are warned and then they're attacked.
David: I'm curious if they ever . . . I mean, I'm thinking a lot about “Star Trek” right now, and I'm curious if they ever came across a truly outrageous extraterrestrial menace that was a lot more significant than most of the other negative extraterrestrials might be – if something like that ever happened to them?
Corey: There were incidents where vessels traveled into different non-terrestrial areas, and they were hit with very advanced weapons, like the torsion weapons, that the inside of the craft would be twisted and pushed in.
David: Oh, wow!
Corey: And when they had that significant of damage, the vessels had to be, basically, taken apart in certain areas and repaired.
David: You know, when we start looking at the fact that the space program, as he said here – and we'll get into that part in a minute – but 1980 Solar Warden, he's giving the same dates that you've always been giving us.
And then we have “Star Trek: The Next Generation” come out in the late '80s that has so many crossovers. Do you think that there was any communication from the space program to producers of “Star Trek” in any way to help seed this stuff into our consciousness?
Corey: Yeah, most likely from defense contractors' companies. A lot of times, maybe even associated with the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate.
David: Right. So if we're getting into this much specific detail from Tompkins, do you think there's any way that Tompkins could be lying at this point? I mean, it doesn't seem possible to me.
Corey: No, not with his credentials and the detail of the information that he has. And the fact that, as you said, he doesn't have Internet access. He doesn't even have an email address. I don't think so.
David: It is very clear that he worked for defense contractors. And here, we're seeing the most astonishing part of this thing, he talks about people going out for 20 years and then being brought back and age regressed.
David: What was your idea of when the 20 and Back actually started?
Corey: The 20 and Back, I was told, started just a . . . They had been planning it and working on it and had plans to implement it for a while, but it wasn't actually implemented until the . . . right after Solar Warden was implemented around 1980.
David: Wow! So this is an exact correlation that you were hearing.
David: Now, he mentioned that the technology to remove memories, he said 90.99, but I think he meant 99.99 . . .
Corey: Probably. Yeah.
David: Would you say that for the people who are not among that 3% or 4% that it is actually 99.99%? Correct?
Corey: Yes. The only types of memories they might have would surface in dreams. And they wouldn't have any context for it, so they wouldn't really pay any attention to it.
David: So if you go out there and you do this 20 and Back, and you're recruited in from the Navy – as he said the Space Navy . . . thousands of soldiers are doing this, if they're going to mind wipe you and leave you 99.9% blanked out, does that mean that you then are going to have to do a normal military service afterwards once you come back?
Corey: A lot of the times how they did it was they would give . . . Like someone would sign up for four years or eight years, and they would be assigned to a project that would then take them off planet.
And then, after they were regressed, they would come back and serve out the rest of their 4~8 years.
David: That's what I would expect, because otherwise if you sign up for the military and they splice you back in, and then you don't have any military service, what happened?
Corey: Right. And there were people that I ran into that had said that they had served multiple 20 and Backs.
Corey: Yes. And they looked around the same age as I was.
David: Do they have the opportunity to remember the ones that they did before when they're on another one? Or does it all get blanked out?
Corey: It depends on what they were doing. If they were doing something that . . . If they were working for one of the different space programs being lent out and they witnessed or worked on things that they were not allowed to disseminate back to their Solar Warden group or on their craft, they would wipe a certain amount of information.
But you weren't completely blank slated until the end of your service.
David: If this technology to age regress people is out there, and we have the Cabal who does not want people to live longer, do you think that that's one of many reasons why they don't want disclosure because of the life extension tools they have?
Corey: Absolutely. Yeah, they want the Earth to be pretty much . . . You know, a lot of the . . . Not all of the people, but the Cabal people would like the Earth to be cold. We've all seen the different scenarios they'd like to see play out.
David: So this technology, if it were to be a Full Disclosure, you could assume that there'd be people who all start wanting age regression and start demanding it. Like, “Well, wait a minute, I'm 74 years old and my body is failing and this is my last chance.” And then all the people are going to say, “Save my grandfather,” and all this stuff. And it could get to be really crazy.
Corey: Yeah. And not to mention all the healing technology to where they can go in, look through your body, find a frequency of cancer, and then nullify it.
David: Tompkins also mentioned that these people were not allowed to have any contact with their families or Earth for those 20 years.
Corey: It's absolutely correct. And not only that, they're not allowed to have access to radio, television or Internet coming from the planet.
David: Was there any form of suitable entertainment that would keep them occupied while they were out there for 20 years?
Corey: Yeah. Strangely, and this will sound kind of weird, there was a lot of ping pong played.
David: Ha, ha, ha.
Corey: But . . .
David: Yeah, that's the same thing that Henry Deacon always said, that when he was at Mars base that he mostly spent his time playing ping pong.
Corey: Yeah, they had recreation areas built. And they had movie nights that I really didn't go to very often. But . . .
David: What were the movies?
Corey: They were all old movies that were before the time you would've gone in. So there were a lot of old cowboy movies and old war movies - World War II movies.
David: But nothing was allowed from the time after they left because it would screw up the future.
Corey: Right. And also, if someone does come back and they do have recall, and you've been watching the Internet and television, it would give you a big advantage in the stock market and other ways, too.
David: I know we've talked about this before, but I'm curious as to how many people you think there are on Earth now who have been blank slated and don't remember anything, but actually did this?
Corey: It's . . . That is in the tens of thousands. People that were involved on one level or another that were pulled in for . . . Some people . . . Not everyone puts in 20 years. They'll have engineers or egghead scientists of different fields that they will pull in for shorter periods of time. I heard them say 8~10 years. And then they will either be reassigned or they return.
David: I know that for a while you worked in what you call the Intercept and Interrogate Program, and I'm wondering if there was ever a time where somebody from the space program starts to remember things and they have to be contacted and given a briefing or given a mind wipe or something like that?
Corey: Yes. They monitor people, as well, afterwards. So kind of like the NSA, you know, the haystack kind of thing, they pull all of your information in and they have behavioral scientists that will look for any signs that the programming is breaking down. And if so, they'll pick you up, bring you back in, debrief you to see exactly what you do know, and then will blank slate them.
David: Now, I notice in this episode that you're a lot more articulate than you used to be and there's been some scuttlebutt on the chat room that you've been replaced by a clone.
David: Could you explain to the audience so that we can stop this rumor why is it that you've become so much more articulate lately?
Corey: Well, when I first started shooting “Cosmic Disclosure” with you, I, as you know, I was going through a lot of surgeries. I had rotator cuff and bicep reconstructive surgery, and I was on pain pills and Xanax and things that definitely slowed me down.
When I watch old episodes, it's difficult for me to even watch.
David: Right. So it is really you, it's . . .
Corey: It's me.
David: - just less drugs.
Corey: Yes. Yes.
Corey: No pharmaceuticals in my body.
David: Ha, ha, ha. All right. So now what we're going to do is we're going to see another discussion with William Tompkins. This time, some amazing material regarding the split that took place between the existing Solar Warden program and what came to be known as the ICC [Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate]. Let's take a look.
INTERPLANETARY CORPORATE CONGLOMERATE
William Tompkins: Because of lack of understanding and a lack of acceptance of the subject matter of extraterrestrials . . . This is staggering, because it's not just many of the extremely well-educated people in the country working on this not wanting to accept the reality of what we were in to, but they even participated in trying to nullify the program – throw wrenches into the gears.
And even at Douglas, over at TRW, and all of these other companies, General Dynamics included, there were the top-level people who were throwing negatives on everything that we were attempting to do.
So you have to ask the question, “Why do we have so much of this at such a high level in technology in the country, in the whole military?”
And who is telling them to try to stop everything, try to cut it down when we're trying to help ourselves? And supposedly that's what the military is for.
But the corporations, at the same time they were doing the military mission programs, they were doing other programs which could possibly allow them to nullify the space programs of the military, like Solar Warden.
And these people, then, utilizing all the advances in space systems, military wise, developed the capability to move off the planet and mine materials on other planets in the solar system and/or continue on out into the galaxy through the 12 closest stars, Alpha Centauri being the first, and mining or extracting materials, or whatever, and making money.
This same group of top corporate people of all these companies that are doing the jobs, that they are getting paid for, were paralleling the space missions for industrialization – making money.
It just seems really strange that this is where we would be finding ourselves because they're using all of the best capabilities. It's already been done for them.
We've got corporate operations operating parallel to missions to solar system planets and other stars' planets, doing the same thing.
The word is greed. Whatever helps them financially, this is where they're going to put the money. This is where they're going to do all the development.
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David: So, Corey, what are your initial thoughts after seeing this particular discussion with Tompkins?
Corey: Wow! He's obviously talking about the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate, which we've done an episode on. And it's all of these different technical corporations and companies that support the military-industrial complex that have formed their own breakaway Secret Space Program.
And, as he said, they mine. They actually are the ones that build most of the facilities out in space.
And what he said matches perfectly with this corporate group.
David: There was an interesting line of inquiry in here that I haven't really gotten from the way you and I have talked before, and that was that he mentioned that there was a lot of intellectual difficulty, resistance, that people had to this concept within the contractors and the companies that were actually working on this stuff.
It's almost like they didn't want all of this to be true. And he seems to be saying that from that rivalry was born the defense contractors not wanting to be part of some peaceful space exploration think like “Star Trek” or a protective system for the solar system. They want to go off and do their own thing.
Corey: And they didn't want their hands tied. If they work through Solar Warden, they have to abide by the rules of whoever's in command of a certain project.
Corey: So if they do it through their corporate means, they have no oversight or no accountability.
David: So they did this without any other approval but their own, I assume.
Corey: Right. They already . . . They had the most advanced toys, weaponry, vessels. They had . . . It was far superior to what they were handing over to the military groups. So there wasn't a whole lot that the military groups could say because the military groups also relied on them so much.
David: Wow! I guess I'd never really understood how much of a rivalry this thing was all the way back then.
Corey: It's a rivalry, but it's not an open tit-for-tat situation between the two groups, . . .
Corey: . . . because they worked together. They lend each other resources, as well.
David: Now, he mentioned that there were 12 neighboring stars in which there were missions and, apparently, construction going on in those areas, as well. That seems a little bit different than some of the things that you've said, but again, we're dealing with fine tuning some minor things. So what's your reaction to that?
Corey: Well, I know that there were plans to do that, but the only problem was these other solar systems have inhabitants, and these inhabitants have space programs. So, you know, they can't just go into a star system, say, “We're going to take the last planet in your system; we won't bother you,” and set up a base, unless they have a diplomatic relationship.
And at the time I was in, I was not aware of diplomatic relationships that allowed us to build all of these different bases in their star systems.
However, I was brought to the Galactic League of Nations base that was on a moon going around a gas giant that most likely was built by ICC assets.
David: Now, do you think that the ICC command structure has now gone completely off planet, or because they are essentially defense contractors, is there still a merger between what's up in the solar system and what's down here on Earth?
Corey: Well, some of them are out in the solar system. Many of them are down here. They are usually like at the head. Let's say . . . I'm just using an example.
TRW has an executive that's been with the company for 20 years, has all the background to be an asset to the ICC. They will say, “Listen, why don't you retire and then we'll move you over to our Super Board?” They call it a Super Board. And this is a board that has members from all of these different corporations that are a part of it and they make decisions.
David: You had mentioned before, and I want to get a little more clarity on this, that some of the products that the ICC uses actually are made on Earth and then they're just shipped up there.
Corey: Yes, some. Yeah. And sometimes it's . . . parts are made here and there. It's shipped up, and then mixed and matched with parts that they've made off planet.
David: What percentage of the people in this defense contractor community . . . How many of them do you think know about what's being done up in space?
Corey: That's unknown to me, but I would say very, very, very few, because the people that ended up serving on the super boards were not given a lot of information, or were not privy to a lot of information, until they became a part of the Super Board and then they were briefed.
David: So if, for example, something benign like seats could be designed on Earth and nobody knows that this is a seat that's going to end up in a hyper-advanced craft, they're so compartmentalized that that seat would only . . . They'd just build it, but they don't know where it's going.
Corey: Right. Right. Or they'd just build part of it, and then it's put together, either off-world or somewhere here, by assets that they know that they can trust, and then shipped out.
David: So people could be building technology that's actually used in very elaborate ways and never have any idea what they're doing.
Corey: Absolutely. They can do it their full career, retire and spend the rest of their life being unaware.
David: How do you think somebody like Tompkins was able to find out all this information? What was his most likely source?
Corey: The level of information that he's reporting had to have trickled down from pretty high. And it sounds like a lot of his information is coming through the Navy. And right now, the Navy is in kind of a contest with some of the other groups to have this disclosed.
And it's not all of the Navy. It's groups within the Navy that want the Secret Space Program disclosed.
David: Do you think that this ICC has participated at all in what we're calling the SSP Alliance?
Corey: The SSP Alliance is made up of people that broke away from all the different space programs. So there are former ICC assets that have joined the Secret Space Program Alliance.
David: What do you think the ICC alliance members' goal is? If they were part of this thing and he's saying in this discussion that it was mostly greed-based and making money, do those people that are participating in that system, are they benefiting from that greed and that money?
Corey: Yes. It's cosmic capitalism. Some of the things . . . They're trading, as well. They're trading biological and technical assets to non-terrestrials for technology. So the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate were one of the groups that were most involved in like the galactic slave trade and trading different assets here in our solar system for assets from another solar system.
So when they receive them, then they go through R&D. They back engineer it. And then they use either the concepts or actually reproduce the technology to use in their ICC group, or it's taken to Earth and then disseminated somehow and put into our technology and released.
And they receive money that way through the corporations. They have this Super Board. The Super Board wants to grow the corporations and make them profitable. It's all about profit.
David: Well, I understand the profit part. And he is mentioning greed here. However, in some of our earlier episodes when you mentioned actually going to ICC facilities, it did not appear that those people were making money or having a luxurious life at all. In fact, it seemed quite the opposite.
Corey: Well, let's look at corporations here that use child labor in other countries. You see the product come. It's in a real shiny box. Everything looks American, but you don't know the history behind the product. It was put together by almost slaves.
Corey: So these people are not reaping the benefits that the ICC is gaining.
David: So do you think that the upper levels of the ICC, where profits are able to be shared, that they have facilities that are a lot nicer than what you saw?
Corey: Yeah. I'm sure they do. The ICC, they always had the best of everything. The newest toys they tested and disseminated some of it back out to the military groups and other space programs.
David: When you have had briefings from the Blue Avians about the future after Full Disclosure, they told you that various facilities would be handed over to the people. Would that include ICC facilities?
Corey: Absolutely. Some of the ICC facilities were what the SSP Alliance was attacking and trying to take out, and the Blue Avians told them to basically stop – knock it off. All of this infrastructure, once there's a Full Disclosure event, this whole infrastructure is going to be handed over to the people of Earth.
David: Well, that's a pretty exciting future.
Corey: It is.
David: Do you think that there is some kind of Draco involvement with the ICC? I know that the Dark Fleet, apparently, has a real strong Draco component to it, but what about the ICC?
Corey: They work with, literally, thousands of different groups. So I am sure there's a crossover there.
David: Do you know if the Draco have control over them to some degree or is it really just the defense contractors that hold the power?
Corey: I'm sure that there are non-terrestrials that exert some sort of influence over them, but they're pretty much a Earth-based group that are interested in pushing forward their own agenda.
David: All right. Well, you saw it here first. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode. And we're reviewing footage from William Tompkins – absolutely mind-blowing stuff. Thank you for watching, and we will see you next time.