Season 8, Episode 13
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. I'm here with Corey Goode, and in this episode, we are taking your questions and hearing what Corey has to say for the answers.
Corey, Welcome back to the show.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
David: Let's hit the ground running here:
“Perhaps this will be more of a reminder, but if there are negatively-oriented factions of entities on this planet who are slowing or delaying our Ascension Process, what can we do to combat this or break through these barriers?”
Corey: Well, usually, what they're doing to hold back the Ascension Process is holding things back for you on a personal level.
Usually we scream out, you know, we're being persecuted or attacked. Or if we look deep, we usually find out that we're doing it to ourselves.
So I would say the answer to that question is, focus on yourself. Focus on working on all of those things inside that you've tried to hide from.
And as you begin to work more on yourself, then you're definitely changing the world one person at a time, but people watch what you are doing with your own self-work, and it is a good example for them as well.
David: Next question:
“It appears as if there are some delaying tactics going on, possibly from either side of the disclosure discussion, regarding Antarctica and our true history. Is it known what is going on behind the scenes and why we seem to be taking a leap forward in information, but then everything goes silent once again?”
Corey: Well, you have to understand that they're not just going to drop the Antarctica information or the information about the Antarctic civilization under the ice.
They're not just going to drop the information about ruins found under the oceans very deep.
It's going to . . . They're going to have to have . . . There's going to be a catalyst for them to drop it, and mostly likely, that'll be some sort of movement against The-Powers-That-Be in the government.
That'll be a time for them to use a grand distraction method.
David: “A weapon of mass distraction.”
Corey: A weapon of mass distraction, yes.
David: So do you think that the Antarctic information is going to roll forward, but that it's more like their final get-out-of-jail-free card?
Corey: That's the plan, yes. They're going to release that information when they have to. And releasing the information during a time of chaos for them they hope will be a springboard for a more orderly future for the planet through their rule.
David: Next question:
“What do you recommend as an appropriate way to hand off the message of the Blue Avians' Law of One Sphere Being Alliance to the next generation? I have two children, ages seven and nine, who are very inquisitive. I raised them to be open-minded about humanity and spirituality, and of course, they are very much impacted by what I talk about and watch on TV,” which I guess is us.
Corey: I would say just sticking to the basics with that young of a generation of teaching them to be service-to-others. Teaching them that being service-to-others doesn't mean that you let others run all over you. And to keep focusing on . . . I guess they don't have a whole lot of inner work to do at that period, but if you can focus on being service-to-others, they're not going to have all of the issues to deal with that we do.
David: “Do you have any intel on the people who allegedly live under Mt. Shasta in Telos, which they call the city?”
Corey: I was recently at Mt. Shasta. And no, I did not receive any communication from them. I do not know if one of the groups I saw represented in my first visit to Inner Earth is this group. I just don't know.
I have . . . I know that there is an Inner Earth group in that area, but I have no direct information of them.
David: Okay. Next question:
“My question is this: The 20-and-Back Program, why do they go through such great measures to use and abuse folks for 20 years, and then age and time-regress them, in Corey's case, doing it multiple times? It doesn't make sense to me. It seems very elaborate. Why wouldn't they just use the subjects and then terminate them and then recruit new ones?”
Corey: The technology for the 20-and-Back was given to us by – I believe it was the Nordics. And this is something that has been used on other planets.
It all has to do with cosmic law and how the benevolent beings know how to skirt it in certain ways – the law.
If they were constantly taking us off planet, using us for a 20-year tour, or however long, and then just killing us off, that is going to cause a major karmic backlash to the Secret Space Program, which doesn't need that when it's trying to fight all of these different negative groups.
So the last thing you want to do when you're in a war is shoot yourself in the foot, karmically.
David: Well, and it would be a lot more work to train new people all the time, wouldn't it?
Corey: True. Yes. And most of the 20-and-Back . . . Almost all of the 20-and-Back subjects are military. They've been military trained, conditioned. They're brought into the 20-and-Back, and then they're re-inserted right back into their service [from] where they were taken.
And many times, they're used through one, two, or even three 20-and-Backs. But it's been found that a lot of subjects do not make it all the way through the third 20-and-back. They start having a lot of neurological issues.
David: When you say “do not make it”, what does that mean?
Corey: They do not complete the 20 years.
David: They die, or they . . .?
Corey: No, they're either sent back early or they're put into a different position like training . . . training other subjects.
David: But not in the Space Program? They'd be brought back . . .
Corey: They're no longer . . . Right, they're no longer active out in the Space Program.
Corey: They're brought back to do training and debriefing for training. That kind of thing.
David: So three tours seems to be the limit of how much you can push this.
Corey: It is. The human physiology just does not hold up.
You know, people think, “Well, you're being taken back in time. You're being age-regressed. Your body is regressing back from any damage that would have happened.”
But your body retains a memory of different traumas to it, and the trauma, the neurological traumas that you have from the technologies that you're exposed to, they begin to pop up again later on in life.
David: Theoretically, if you took a tattoo when you were in the Space Program, and then the age regression process, the way it works, would the tattoo still be visible when you were age-regressed?
Corey: No, you're not allowed to get tattoos.
Corey: But let's say if I had a scar from a very traumatic incident, it was fixed, and even the scar was covered up while I was on the 20-and-Back. After you're regressed, when you're “back in the world”, as they say, then this . . . you can start getting a ghost scar in the same area.
David: Interesting. That makes sense. Okay, next question. This is kind of interesting:
“If we have a supergate outside our solar system, and the Cabal are trying to get use of it for their own access, wouldn't that access be cut off by the outer barrier that the Spheres have now created?”
Corey: Yes. Yes, they have not had access to that supergate in some time now.
David: But they did before?
Corey: Yes. That's where a lot of the commerce was occurring through.
David: Oh. And you've said before that supergate can potentially go to other galaxies, not just this one?
Corey: Oh, it does go to other galaxies. Absolutely. That's what makes it a supergate.
David: Hmm. Okay, next question:
“I am wondering what Corey knows about positive Reptilian beings. Do they exist, and if so, have you ever encountered any of them?”
Corey: I have not encountered them. I've encountered positive beings that look Reptilian sort of, but they're not . . . they're not exactly Reptilian. They're a completely different type of being.
Now, I've heard of this dragon-looking or type of benevolent Reptilian-looking being, but I have never experienced one.
David: Okay, next question:
“With the Mandela Effect, if I switch into another timeline, how would I know that I have actually shifted? Am I then interacting with different versions of the people who are in my life, or would those people have also shifted along with me?”
Corey: Ha, ha.
David: Ha, ha.
Corey: I can't answer part of that. I mean, this whole time thing is so hard for us to wrap our minds around. We've . . . We're starting to understand how space works, space-time works. You know, you can stretch it.
There's all kinds of stuff you can do, but we're just now starting to learn about time-space and about how we can manipulate it as well.
David: But you've also said . . . We talked a long time ago about the idea that there is an alternate Earth that has a very radically different timeline than we do, and you said it was very dangerous to try to go to that one.
Corey: That is a different, basically, a different reality or dimension. Now, what's the difference between a timeline and a dimension or a different reality? Those are the things that we're trying to wrap our minds around.
Now, the question also asked, how would I be able to know that I moved timelines? Well, the majority of people on the planet don't really notice.
Corey: But you begin to notice weird things like the Mandela Effect. That is the only real indicator that we can access right now to see . . . or to try to determine if we have changed timelines.
David: Some of the intel I've received concerns these things called “choice points”, and so I want to get your take on this:
If people have choice points in their life where they could make a major decision, would you say that either decision has a timeline?
Corey: I believe so.
David: Okay. So then there could be alternate timelines where you make the choice one way, and your whole reality is different, and you could potentially have people who can see the future, or you could have a prophetic dream that shows you what that timeline might be like for you.
But you could make a different choice if the dreams are, like, deja vu, and they're warning of the future. You could make a different choice and alter your future with that prophetic ability.
Corey: Right. And that happens in dreams all the time.
David: So how do the summations of our choice points affect the outcome right now? What are the choice points that we're being steered towards that would be the better choices?
Corey: Well, right now we're choosing as a collective consciousness, what type of future timeline we want to experience together. So we as a collective are determining our timeline.
It's not something that is just bifurcating, you know, naturally. We are the ones that are changing the timelines.
David: Okay, next question:
“What are the consequences of the negative forces breaking celestial laws of free will, as they have appeared to be doing? As far as I can see, the only repercussions to evil beings when they interfere with the human race is that they have had incredible success with no obstacles to their evil agenda, going on now for eons. How could we possibly win this war if we're not on a level playing field?”
Corey: Well, I mean, we see that just down here on Earth. We see negative-oriented people that seem to skate through their whole lives without . . . with no real sign of karma catching up with them. That karma tends to build up, build up, build up and then hit them with full force later on.
And then you see positive people that seem to have all kinds of problems.
I think that it's probably pretty close to the same thing above as it is here below.
David: Well, one way this question was worded I think we should clarify, and that is, wouldn't you say that the negative is not just breaking cosmic law? They're actually very careful about how they follow the law. They can't do whatever they want.
Corey: They . . . Mainly, they try to skirt the law. But yes, they will break the law. And there are ramifications.
If they . . . A lot of it is kind of balanced between the good and the bad, like the Mohammad Accords. There are negative groups and positive groups that are signatories of that agreement.
Now, if one of the groups decides to . . . You know, four of the groups decided recently that they are not going to abide by the Accords anymore.
Well, whether they be positive or negative, there are ramifications for that. So if it's not karmically, energetically policed, it is policed on another level.
David: Wouldn't you say that the cosmic principle of the Cabal's sorcery, as the Elizabethan astrologer John Dee first came up with, they have to hide it out in the open, tell us what they're doing, kind of give it all away in various ways, that that sets them up for an eventual defeat?
They're not indestructible in that sense.
Corey: Right. And they don't put it out because it is something that they do out of tradition or something. They do it as a way to make it happen. Because when they put it out there, it enters into . . . it is seeded into our co-creative consciousness.
And then as we stated many times before, they'll use movies, TV, false flag attacks to cause us to catalyze those seeds with our emotions, and we cause them to come about.
That is the secret of their magic.
David: So in that same sense, they're actually very vulnerable, because they've been revealing the agenda to us the whole time.
David: “NASA actually made a public announcement recently where they denied that there is any slave labor occurring on Mars. If the Cabal were looking for any amnesty with either partial or Full Disclosure, why would they have made a statement like this?"
Corey: Yeah, that was very interesting. Why would NASA even respond to the question? That all goes back to the question before. I think they're seeding our consciousness with a denial.
I don't . . . I really don't see how that works for them in their agenda to even acknowledge the question.
David: Right. So you're saying that by denying it, they're actually planting that seed of people thinking, “Well, what if there IS slave labor on Mars?”
David: Okay, next question:
“How could the MIC Secret Space Program people not be aware of the Navy's Solar Warden program that in the past has been on the Internet, and especially after disclosures of hacker Gary McKinnon and all that publicity going back to the early 2000s? There have been huge waves since they nabbed Gary in the UK.”
Corey: So Gary McKinnon is the IT professional in the UK who had in 2004 started trying to hack into the DoD [US Department of Defense] and NASA databases to look for a Secret Space Program information?
Corey: Okay. That information was . . . If it went . . . Once it made it up to the MIC SSP, was most likely called disinfo, or it was most likely pooh-poohed – the information.
Now, the Air Force DIA [Defense Intelligence Agency] Secret Space Program, which is the MIC SSP, they do see craft that don't belong to them, that belong to the Navy program. They are told “that is a concept craft. It's being tested. You didn't see it. Don't speak about it.” And they don't speak about it.
David: Right. I want to add something else, Corey, that I've never told you before, and that is at one point, we actually had you and Pete Peterson here at the same time. And he watched you taping an episode, and he wasn't really sure that everything you were saying was real, but he said that what really caught his attention was when you mentioned that it was a Navy space program.
And he said that he had been aware for a long time that there was a Navy space program, and he was dying to get information about it, but that it was “nearly impossible”. Those were his words.
So that's another boots-on-the-ground example of somebody who actually is in the MIC part and really wants to know what the Navy is doing and could not get anything.
Corey: Well, Sigmund, who disappeared, but I was exchanging information with, stated that in the beginning, he did not believe that a Navy program was going on. He knew that the Navy had developed a lot of the Secret Space Program that eventually was awarded to the Air Force, and that's what he believed.
So he began to do an investigation to try to prove whether or not there was a Navy program, and if it was more advanced than theirs, which was . . . they just couldn't wrap their minds around that.
David: Would you agree with the statement that Hoagland's top insiders always said, “The lie is different at every level?”
Corey: Yeah. That's how they compartmentalize.
David: Right. So Sigmund, I guess, . . . The big challenge to his ego was that he was made to feel very special, told that he knew everything, and then he started to find out after actually abducting you and interrogating you, that, no, he probably was being lied to on a very big level.
Corey: Yes, very much. He basically stated – and I'll clean it up - “You mean we are told that we're the tip of the spear when we're actually the effing Coast Guard?” during one of the briefings with him.
David: Very interesting. Okay, next question:
“I was under the impression that some kind of disclosure would happen before the Solar Event. If that is not the case, would it be easier to educate the masses after the flash, given the artificial intelligence and mind-control technologies will then have been wiped out?”
Corey: Well, after the flash, we're supposed to go through this big consciousness boost to where everything just looks different. We think differently. We approach everything differently. So it's hard to predict.
David: Next question:
“Do you have any idea what may happen to the negative groups on Earth after the Solar Flash and/or Disclosure?”
Corey: You know, I've been trying to make sense of that. I don't know if there's just going to be a timeline shift, or if this . . . after this new cycle begins, and we're in fourth density, they're probably not going to be compatible. So what happens to them?
Do some of these Guardian races come and physically remove them? Are they energetically just spliced out of our timeline? I don't know the answer to that.
David: Well, given that you've said that the Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that wrote The Law of One, and they've told you they are, let me run this by you and see what you think.
In The Law of One, they talk frequently about what they call the three-way split. They say that negative entities are removed and moved to a negative planet, that positive entities get to stay with the Earth because they graduate and stay here, and that neutral entities who are neither positive nor negative are also relocated to a new Earth-type planet where they continue in third density.
So would that correlate in any way with anything you've heard from the Anshar or the Blue Avians?
Corey: It could. A lot of it has to do with . . . The information that they're giving you is, . . . I keep saying, it's hard to wrap your mind around. And a lot of times, a lot of it doesn't make sense until a certain amount of time has passed.
Corey: The information's very heavy.
David: So let me run an idea by you that's a model that I've had for a long time. And this is based on very intense scholarship around The Law of One.
It's difficult to try to understand exactly what they say, but it would appear that the model includes that positive people and people who have to repeat third density but they're not really negative, that those first of all get taken away to safety, that the Earth then goes through a catastrophe of some kind, and if you're sufficiently negative, that you live through that.
And then after that, enough time has gone by that those people can't be on Earth at all. That's when the positive people who are meant to stay with the Earth are then reintroduced to the Earth at that time.
Corey: But how are they actually taken away? Through what process?
David: I think it's the same process they've demonstrated with you. Blue Spheres and Anshar that can portal people out with that white flash that you've had.
If they could do it to you, I think they could probably do it to potentially billions of people at once.
Corey: They could. And it also could be a timeline kind of . . . you know, a shifting kind of thing. So just as in The Law of One they were not real specific, they're not real specific on a one-on-one situation either.
David: Have you tried to get specific answers to these questions?
Corey: Not necessarily THESE questions, but questions that I try to get specifics from. And a lot of times, you know, either it's not relevant to the current topic and they say “It's of no consequence”, or they just don't answer.
David: “How long ago in our time count did Maya culture develop a breakaway civilization? And is Mica's culture a part of this Mayan breakaway group in any way?”
Corey: Mica is not related to the Mayans. The Mayans didn't develop here. From what I'm told, they were refugees. There was an issue going on wherever they were from, or this group of them were from. They were transplanted here on Earth as refugees.
While they were here on Earth, their numbers grew. But the surface population was living off the land, and the religious caste were the ones who kept all of the secrets about science and that kind of a thing.
And I do not know why they were . . . They didn't break away necessarily from the rest of the Mayan group. They were just kept secret. They came here during the same time period. It's like a caste system, I would guess.
David: Well, let me run something by you that I think is interesting. Another insider, who's proven to be very credible, has said that there was a vast discovery underground in Ecuador in the late 1970s, and that Neil Armstrong and some of the NASA astronauts were brought into it, and that it was actually quite technological, and that it's going to be similar in time, if this is all disclosed, to what they found in Antarctica.
Have you ever heard anything like that?
Corey: No, I have not.
David: But we do know that these Mayan groups were building stuff underground and not just on the surface.
Corey: Correct. Yes. And they were also . . . The giant mothership that they have, is a giant cylinder that's basically one giant piece of rock that was carved out of the inside of a mountain.
David: Do you think that there are ships of theirs that would still be stored underground somewhere?
Corey: Oh, absolutely. Yes, they have enclaves here.
David: Hmm. Okay. One final question:
“Can you describe the merchant race that is doing trading with the ICC?”
Corey: Yeah. There are a couple of merchant races, but I think the one that they're describing are the ones that are sort of canine-looking. They're all about trade. And they do not . . . They're amoral. They're not really positive or negative, but they stand in the middle and deal with positive and negative groups, you know, passing information and technology, goods and services between the two even.
David: Hmm. Could you describe what they actually look like?
Corey: Yeah. They look very canine. They have ears that are up and pointed, kind of like a dog. They have a snout that goes out with . . . I mean, they look like a dog. They look very much like a dog.
David: Do they walk upright?
Corey: Yes, they're bipedal. They have, like, hands. They have dexterity. They can do all the things that we do. They don't have, you know, like, little pads and claws. You know, they're up . . . They're humanoids.
David: Are these merchant beings telepathic, or do they speak with their mouths?
Corey: No, they speak.
David: They do?
Corey: Yes. Well, they . . . Yes, they use a language. And they use this, I guess, somewhat universal of a language that sounds very Akkadian-like that a lot of these beings used to . . . for commerce, for trade.
David: Cool. Well,Corey, I want to thank you for going through all these questions. A lot of really interesting stuff this time.
And I want to thank you for watching. This is Cosmic Disclosure. I'm your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode, taking your questions.
[Note: At the end of the episode, Corey announced that they'll be taking a break until December 5, 2017.]