Season 7, Episode 28
David Wilcock: All right, welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. I'm here with Corey Goode. And in this episode, we are taking your questions so that we have a nice interactive two-way dialogue going on here.
And Corey, welcome back to the show.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
David: All right, so the first question we have . . . This is interesting. I'm curious to how you're going to answer this.
“If we have a being that's in fourth density, does that being have unique psychic properties that we don't have, that would allow it to be able to see beings that are discarnate from our perspective?”
Corey: Wow, it is an interesting question.
I would think that some of them would at least have that ability to see disincarnate beings. But, yes, they do have enhanced abilities far beyond our own.
David: Hm. Interesting. All right, this one is a question that I really find interesting because I've talked so much about this Solar Flash. And I think I know how you're going to answer this, but you might surprise us.
“Why does it matter if the Earth Alliance negotiates a partial disclosure that will take place over the next hundred years or a Full Disclosure if this Event is about to take place?”
Corey: This Event may not be what each of us thinks it is. This Event might just be a catalyst for a disclosure of certain technologies. It could be a series of solar events, which has been postulated, that occurs.
Some of the first ones would possibly take out electrical grids or cause certain technologies with integrated circuits to no longer operate. And then they would have to come in and replace that with the new technology.
And that's when the Alliance was thinking was going to be the best chance to bring in that new technology.
David: Hm. Very interesting. This next question kind of goes along the lines of that one.
“Are the Alliance and their opposition aware of future events that are about to take place and how everything is going to change?”
Corey: The Alliance, along with all these different groups, are made up of other groups. And each of these subgroups have different ideas about what's going to occur.
And some of them are expecting like an Ascension kind of an event. Some of them are expecting just mass chaos, loss of technology. Some of them are expecting a lot of deaths.
So there's not one agreed-upon outcome that they're planning for.
David: You had mentioned that in the space program they actually took human beings and exposed them to energy fields similar to what would happen after the Event.
Corey: Leading up to the Event.
David: Could you describe, again, what that outcome was and does everybody have that intel?
Corey: Yes, everyone understands about . . . that they've received the intel from the Navy vessels that went out to the outer reaches of this energy anomaly. That's what they were calling it in the beginning.
The ones that were going out there, they were noticing that they were being affected by the energy. And they started doing further tests by putting people of different polarities – positive people, negative people – in a room and piping in this frequency to see how they would react.
And these people would be sitting down doing a job, not knowing that they were being tested, experimented on.
The people that were more negative would start becoming more agitated and claustrophobic and couldn't handle it.
And the people that were more positive would kick back and start to bliss out, smile, and start to daydream and not be affected by the other variables that they had in the room that they were using to try to affect the people.
David: So you're saying this was a Navy study, and that data has been shared with pretty much all of the Alliance groups?
Corey: Yes, the Alliance has it. All the information that the Cabal has, the Alliance has that information.
David: Okay, but even, I guess, within the fact that it seems to amplify and potentiate people's innate state of being, there could still be a great deal of scholarly debate as to how that affects us as a collective.
Corey: Right. And then there is the aspect that some people want to weaponize it. They have a lot of different plans. They've been studying this for a long time.
David: Okay, next question is:
“'The Law of One' only speaks of there being eight densities where the eighth density is a return to the oneness of the universe. Can you clarify then what would a ninth-density being represent?”
Corey: I don't know all the different octaves. I've been told that the octaves returning back to Source . . . if there wasn't an end to it, it would seem as though they were going on forever.
David: “Are Raw-Tier-Eir and the two others who also use the Raw prefix to their names in any way associated with the same social memory complex entity that was speaking to the people who wrote down the original 'Law of One' material?”
Corey: They have confirmed that they were involved in communicating 'The Law of One' material.
David: “After you were age regressed, although you are now 45 years old biologically, is your soul actually 65 years old?”
Corey: I would have to say, “Yes”, because I still have those extra years of experience.
David: “Have the USSR and Russian leaders been involved in the Secret Space Programs?”
Corey: Absolutely, definitely since the '80s. Before the end of the Cold War, we were already working with them on a very high level.
Now would certain generals in the USSR military know? No, they were . . . The generals on both sides believed that the Cold War was real, and they were prosecuting that war thoroughly.
Above them, things were going on a different level, compartmentalized level, to where the Russians and the Americans were working very closely.
David: When we saw the book “Alternative 3” come out in the 1970s, it was describing secret collusion between the U.S. and the USSR going on all the way back at that time.
Do you think it's possible that this was earlier than 1980s, based on data like that?
Corey: Yes, especially the early continuity of species programs were joint programs. They went back pretty far.
David: I want to share with you something that one of my other insiders told me and see what your thoughts are.
He got a job in the 1980s for one of the most serious intelligence agencies. I won't say which one. And he was really shocked because he said, “Aren't we at war with the Soviet Union?”
And they just started laughing. And they said, “That's just for the newspapers”.
Do you think that a lot of people that would get these kind of intelligence jobs would find out at some point that this whole Cold War nuclear threat thing was really just a scam?
Corey: Seen a lot of the behind the scenes, I'm sure they would extrapolate that eventually. But I don't think it was common knowledge documents at the ready information.
David: “Do you have any update regarding the negotiations going on between whether we will have partial disclosure or actual Full Disclosure?”
Corey: Right now there is a major stalemate going on between the Alliance and their proxies within the U.S. military forces and what people are calling the Deep State – mainly the intelligence community and the bankers.
So there is a major stalemate going on right now between the two. There's not a whole lot of movement.
It's gotten to a point to where the military aspect believes now that there is no peaceful way of making a transition away from the Cabal. They think that they're going to have to have a military coup.
And they think that a military coup will curtail whatever type of civil outbreak will happen. There's major factions of ideologies that are being pitted against each other right now to try to get our attention away from this civil war going on.
David: “Is the Cabal's preferred method of disclosure the type of slow rollout that we are already seeing right now? Have there been AI predictability computer systems used to design this partial disclosure gradual strategy?”
Corey: Well, these groups have definitely used an AI technology to get an idea of what's going on in different probably futures.
From what I've understood, it's that this technology has not been reliable recently for them. There is something that has occurred, maybe this Mandela Effect thing, who knows, that this technology is not as useful to them anymore.
But they definitely have, in the past, used that technology. That's why so many times there have been opportunities to take down this Cabal, but they've found a way every time to escape it by using this technology.
David: So the core of the question is, does the Cabal prefer this low drip, drip, drip disclosure that we're already seeing, or is there some point maybe where they want to do a big blast?
Corey: Well, there was a plan to have a few big blasts, not a Full Disclosure, but disclosures that would definitely get the attention of every human being on the Earth.
If stuff starts to come out about their crimes against humanity – boom, “We found pyramids under the ocean”. Boom, “New information: We found weird artifacts in Antarctica,” you know, to kind of distract you and throw you off.
So they'll use disclosure as a way of distraction and manipulation as well.
David: “Is there a limit to how many times you could send someone back in time before certain inescapable health consequences or other things would take place?”
Corey: Definitely, especially with the early technologies. Such high electromagnetic fields are used that even when people that spend 20 years in the space program, being within those high electromagnetic fields, they have a lot of side effects: the temporal dementia, different types of neurological issues, weird numbness.
There are a number of issues that occur from being inside those magnetic fields. So, yes, if you're sent using the technology, especially that they used to use a long time ago, sending you back in time over and over would be like working in the engine room of one of these torsion drives.
They wear these Faraday suits that are like a metal mesh that go all the way over them when they're in these.
So, yeah, it's very detrimental to the neurological system.
David: So is there any contraindications for people's lifespan if they've been in the Secret Space Program?
Corey: Yes. Usually the people that have either retired or have gone through a 20-and-Back like myself, they have a lot of neurological issues for a while. Their quality of life tends to go down, down, down, and they do not have the life expectancy as the rest of the population.
That's a tradeoff that they make, and most of them knowingly make that tradeoff.
David: One of the things we described in a previous update is that you have had new information come your way about there having been more than one 20-and-Back program.
So how does this new knowledge impact the question that's going on here, which is, is there a limit to how many times somebody could be sent back in time?
Corey: Yes. That information was relayed to me through Gonzales when I was up getting an examination on the Mayan craft.
And they had actually repressed two of the 20-and-Back memories from me when they first met me.
Because when I had the eye surgery, when I had a detached retina that they said was basically the same as astronaut's eye, I had full recall of all three 20-and-Backs.
Corey: And I was almost suicidal. It was bad.
And then they came and assisted me by removing some of my emotional energy to some of the memories of this 20-and-Back, and then rebury the memories of the other two.
The memories were not conducive to me having a normal life.
David: So given that you are a person who now believes that you've had three 20-and-Backs, that would make you, I guess, with a soul age of like 105 or something like this?
Corey: Yeah, something like that. So how does that affect you in terms of your health and your functionality?
It's definitely had side effects. I've had a number of surgeries because of neurological issues with my hands and forearms, which is common.
I'm starting to have issues with memory recall a little bit, having, what is that, aphasia, where all of a sudden you can't remember your normal words out of your lexicon. It's like it's been erased.
Corey: So yeah, there are a lot of different side effects that I'm dealing with currently.
David: Are you aware of anyone having had four or five or more 20-and-Back experiences? Does that ever happen?
Corey: I'm not aware of them, no.
David: So you think three might be as far as it ever gets pushed?
Corey: I have no idea.
David: Has anybody ever died from having done a 20-and-Back that you know of?
Corey: I know that people have died while on 20-and-Backs, but I have not known of anyone that has died in the process of the 20-and-Back, the pharmaceutical process or the temporal process.
Now, I'm sure at the beginning when they were developing this technology that was passed on to us by nonterrestrials, they definitely broke a few eggs before they got the omelet right.
David: How do they handle it when somebody dies in a 20-and-Back? How do they bring those people back?
Corey: Well, if they're military, and depending on the situation, they'll receive military honors. But if they're a civilian on the 20-and-Back, they become a missing person.
David: So you can't age regress a dead body?
Corey: You know, they could probably go through the process of cloning a body at the right age and then replacing it there, but really what occurs is that there's nothing to return home in that time period of the return. So you don't get returned home. And parents come in the next day, you're gone, missing person.
David: Do we know which extraterrestrial group gave us this 20-and-Back age regression technology? Was it the Draco? Was it the Anshar? Do we have any idea how the space program got this?
Corey: We got a lot of our stuff from a Nordic group.
David: Oh, really?
David: And would that be an Inner Earth Nordic group?
Corey: I'm not sure. They don't claim to be. They claim to be from another star system.
David: Okay. Is this kind of 20-and-Back thing a fairly common strategy that's employed throughout a variety of other worlds besides just Earth? Is this a common practice?
Corey: Seeing that they had a in-the-box type of solution all ready to deliver to us, I would assume that, yeah, it's being used on some level on other planets.
David: You had said before in one of our other updates that you would have people in the space program who had been pulled from various eras of Earth's history simultaneously. I'm curious about how those people from – like you said, some of them might have been from the 1950s . . . Is that a process of time travel that is required to get them in the first place? How are they picked up?
Corey: Yeah, they have to go back in time to pick them up. And then once they pick them up, and they serve their time, they bring them back to that exact time period.
David: What would that look like for somebody in the 1950s? Would they see something like a UFO contact or how would it happen to them?
Corey: I have no idea. Yeah, that's not information that we were allowed to share with each other.
And I've seen people that obviously were from different past eras. Was not common, but you would see it.
David: So here's an interesting question:
“If we're about halfway out from the center of the Milky Way, towards the edge, we're moving along at 1,000 miles per hour, there is some kind of spatial displacement . . .
David: . . . as we're moving through that galactic space, how do they compensate for that in this 20-and-Back protocol?”
Corey: They're taking a person and putting them 20 years back in the past. Now, 20 years back in the past, the celestial mechanics were different. They've changed. It's like a giant clock that's turning at all times.
Just like they have calculations for the Cosmic Web on how to travel between different stars and arrive there at the correct time period, they have the same mathematical model for going back in time. So they're able to calculate it.
David: Are you aware of there ever having been people from Earth's future that were getting pulled in just like people from the 1950s may have been pulled in?
Corey: I've heard that there have been people from the future that have been picked up here while coming here to do recon. I don't know anything beyond that.
David: If you have somebody from the 1950s and somebody from the 1980s pulled from Earth, working in what is now the same time for wherever they are, how does the space program avoid time paradoxes?
In other words, wouldn't that person from the 1980s at some point toss out a cultural reference that could somehow pollute the mind of the guy from the 1950s?
Corey: Sure, if the person from the 1950s wasn't blank-slated.
David: So the blank-slating would eliminate any memory of him from something that would be in our future?
David: But you also said that 4% of the time it's not effective.
Corey: Yeah, 3 to 5% of the time. And then they have to mitigate those problems when they occur.
David: “Mitigate” meaning like reabduct the person, that kind of thing?
Corey: Yeah. Reabduct them or bribe them or who knows.
David: We also seem to hear from other insiders I've spoken to that time has a natural repairing ability for itself.
Corey: Yeah. Time is elastic just like space is. That's why in the beginning we were trying to go back and fix these different paradoxes that we had created.
And the nonterrestrial groups told us, “Stop. You're just making it worse.” In time, time will snap back. It'll correct itself.
David: “In previous episodes of 'Cosmic Disclosure', you were posed a question about yourself. The question was, do you want the knowledge of who you were, who you are, and who you will be? If you were to get another chance to answer this question, would you now answer, 'Yes, I do want to know', and why?”
Corey: I think I'm close to being ready. I'm doing a lot of work on myself – a lot of things that are being pointed out by these beings that I need to change.
But I think a lot of this information was actually downloaded into me when I had that meeting with the Sentinel on that station and all of the information was downloaded. I just haven't had access to it.
I think it's a process of working through that information to gain access to it.
But if I'm asked the question again, it depends at the moment where I am. Right now just the feeling I get from it, it's an overwhelming experience. And it's one that's changed Gonzales considerably. He is literally a different human being. He only looks like the guy I knew before.
David: Okay. This is, I guess, just a general personal guidance and philosophical question based on what you've been through:
“How can someone make peace with past and present experiences that are negative in order for them to be able to heal themselves, not feel that they are stuck in their life, and move past any feelings of vulnerability and lack of trust of other people?”
Corey: Well, you can't bury them. You have to confront them head on. A lot of them are traumas that you're going to need help [with] from a professional. Don't try to do it on your own.
But if you want to, I guess, evolve, you've got to begin to focus on those traumas and be able to get to a point where you can speak about them without feeling the energy connected to the trauma.
It takes a lot of work, but I've been able to do it on several different topics, and it's been very painful. I've had to just confront things about myself that I didn't want to do.
If you're in a place in your life where you can do that, then go for it. If not, then do the work that it takes to get there.
David: Very well said.
“Are there only two timelines: the one that we experience here on Earth and the one being experienced by the Secret Space Program? Or does each new person brought into the Secret Space Program create a new timeline?” I guess that's the first question.
Corey: Timelines, realities, they're basically the same thing. There are many, many, many different realities and timelines. So there's not just the two.
David: Okay. The next part of this question is:
“Do two versions of the same person exist at the same time? Would there be one that is enhanced and highly trained, living off-planet, while the other version of themselves is living a normal life on Earth?”
Corey: Those are two different timelines. So it depends [on] how you look at it. I mean, if you look at it as during the same time, not split off or segmented from each other, then, yes, it would look like they're coexisting at the same time. But they're two different timelines.
On one timeline, you're in the space program and there's a missing person's report out on you during that time period on Earth.
On another timeline, once you're back, you're going through your reintegration period after being placed back here from the Secret Space Program, if that makes sense.
David: All right. Let me ask you this. It kind of falls in line with your question. They're talking about that you would be enhanced but highly trained off-planet.
So could the people doing the space program roll back enhancements and high degrees of training as they do the regression process when you get brought back into your regular life?
Would you lose the training and the enhancement?
Corey: The training you can get back. It's compartmentalized. The training, the knowledge, the experience is still there. It's compartmentalized. It's been blank slated or removed from your ability to pull it into your immediate recall.
Corey: So, your skills are retrievable. Now, the abilities, if it's a chemically-enhanced ability, you're going to have to go through the process again of them building up the chemical in your body and then your body adjusting to the chemical.
David: The next part of this question is:
“What happens to the off-planet timeline once the Secret Space Program worker has been regressed and sent back to the moment that he first left?”
Corey: The timelines . . . That other timeline still exists. You're just now on this timeline.
David: So, in some way, people's idea of a nice organized linear time isn't really working when you're talking about timelines here.
Corey: Time is not what people think it is. We're just starting to get an idea about how gravity and space works and the torsion of space. Time works in much the same way. It can be manipulated and stretched and merged in some cases with other timelines.
David: Okay. So we have one last question for you here, and that is:
“What specifically can the average citizen do to actively promote disclosure and gain the greatest impact?”
Corey: Well, I definitely wouldn't go out and start talking about little Gray aliens or eight-foot tall blue birds in the beginning. Ha, ha.
David: Ha, ha. You learned that one the hard way.
Corey: Well, yeah. You know, I had no choice.
Corey: I think that the best thing that all of us can do is start to focus on the suppressed technologies that we want released – start focusing on that.
If we focus on nonterrestrials, that's already a topic that's been programmed into people to resist.
Now, if people start finding out that maybe the government has technology that could cure cancer, maybe they have technology that's zero point energy. That is something that the average person could think of as more tangible that they could get behind.
So I think that we should focus more on the nuts and bolts part of the Secret Space Program in the beginning and try to get that disclosed to get the general public interested and just to a point to where they're not going to shrug their shoulders when they hear “ETs” or “aliens”.
David: How do you feel about people who are watching this show and having access to the Internet? What can they do with the Internet to help this process along?
Corey: Get petitions going, make comments, spread the information as much as you can. Also with your family, don't go talking about aliens to them. But I think the best thing to talk to them about is suppressed technology.
Everyone can . . . Just about everyone can believe that the government has technology that's 50 years ahead as a part of national security. But if they start thinking, “I have an aunt that's about to pass away from cancer”.
If I was able to get those technologies out right now, I would. And there are many people out there who have loved ones that are going through this.
I can't think of anything else that will motivate people to get out and demand disclosure.
David: Do you think there's an opportunity for journalism to be done with articles and blogs and videos that isn't being done? Or do you think that everything that could be covered has already been covered?
Corey: I think that it can be done in a way that is easier to disseminate to the general population. I think if a lot of us in this field begin to focus on that and try to get the general information out about the Secret Space Program, the technologies that would change our lives, I think that that's going to cause a groundswell of people asking for disclosure a lot more than us talking to them about crashed aliens in the desert.
David: I agree. Well, you heard it here first. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode, taking your questions and answers and handing it back to you with action points you can use to help make this disclosure reality. Thanks for watching.